To: russwinter who wrote (4157 ) 5/23/2002 9:55:59 AM From: IngotWeTrust Respond to of 4409 Well, well, well...look what jayhawker dropped out of a Kansas tornado... Before I forget, tell me how I "lost" in Corner Bay when I was neither long nor short at any time, in any way, and was the only impartial observer posting on this thread???. The rest of you were talking your position, and still are. My money is still at work and still making the multiples, elsewhere in this sector while you all sweat bullets over "to Bay or not-to-Bay"...that WAS your question, right? BTW, when you regularly take, even to this day gold out of scrap for $20 or less per assayed oz and flip it for now $316, and do this like clockwork, any day, any time, any place, then come back and talk to me about ROI. I'd say regularly banking that kind of % in this sector makes its own statement of "winning"...BAY is a high cost produer DUMPED dud, and now BAY is PAAS's dud. RE: LVLT...that's what I like about you and your "research" attention span...you have a short one-LOL!!! I was calling LVLT a dud from $130 bucks...read the thread...I was about as popular there as I was here...LOL it's trading at a short-covering $5 and change. It was a dud then, it is a dude now, and as a stock, it has only become barely marginable ...again... This STILL EMPTY OUT HERE in the stretch from SEATTLE to LA-12 conduits "drowning whale" is NOT a great telecom play. Their debt is exhorbitant, they have no pricing power in their optical space, and their ceo has a sugar daddy who has bought him 4 years of respite because his dumping shares weekly for the last four years from his "non-arm's length trust" got embarrassing under $4. In this 'post - Enron" era, the bankrupted worker drones have lost it all and are praying for an investigation into their LVLT mess. If you want to make any play money playing LVLT, the "where it's at" is the 40+ % returns on their junk bonds, not gambling on the common stock... I didn't short that LVLT either. Again I was an observer after tripping over their slothful and money wasting ways in Eastern Oregon when they were raping and pilaging the desert to lay their cable on forbidden BLM land. Furthermore, the fines and litigation numbers still haven't hit this stock from all their trespass on BLM land. It's all there on the thread. Happy reading. LVLT is a sad stock with sad prospects. As a former stockbroker, you embarrassed yourself by not doing more research instead of looking at some currnet chart entrails, and then popping off in your post to me with your shoot from the hip nano-research. You're out of your league with THIS proud Jayhawker Dorothy and Toto--LOL