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To: Joe S Pack who wrote (42680)5/23/2002 6:06:00 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Respond to of 50167
 
<It talks about untouchability, revenge, cunningness and what not. Though the final outcome is good winning over bad, but the way in which the end is achieved teachs all immoral ways to reach the end. What moral values are we teaching with Mahabarath when one lady is a common wives for 5 brothers? Both Mahabaratha and Ramayan is filled with the odor called Brahminism.>

Great call man, similar in content to many other revered books they only produce human tormentors and terrorists, God legit equality of man not inequality, any book or believe that encourages inequality and killing is not worth the page it is written on.



To: Joe S Pack who wrote (42680)5/24/2002 3:57:09 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Please let may have your take on some Indian listed stocks? Thanks



To: Joe S Pack who wrote (42680)5/24/2002 12:26:55 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
>All those explorers came to the "sub continent" in search of spice and other wealth>

I didn't hear of native americans being called red sub-continentals.

> the concept of India is created by British for administrative purpose and hence there was no country called India to begin with.>

You mean the Moghuls did not have any administration?

>Let us not talk about Mahabaratha and Ramayan. Those things have as many immoral (by our modern standard) and inhuman things as moral values.>

I was not talking about Mahabharat and Ramayan in terms of their religious or moral value. Just to show that even in ancient epics that were probably written at least 2500 years ago, there is a geographical and cultural entity which you may call India or Bharat or whatever you want.

Examples. Gandhari, the mother of Kauravas, is from Gandhar (hence her name) or better known as Kandahar these days. Krishna is born in Brindawan near Agra and becomes the King of Dwarka, which is in Gujarat.

In the Ramayana, the exiled King Rama travels all over India to ultimately fight with Ravana, the King of Lanka (Sri Lanka).

>I am now reading a small version of Mahabaratha (to my 7 year old son got from one of the leading cultural schools) and it immediately made me realize how horrible they are (as portrayed by that book) to read to kids.>

You may find that kinds of horribleness in any of the ancient epics such as Homer's Odyssey. For kids you are better off with reading them Panchtanra.

> It talks about untouchability, revenge, cunningness and what not.>

The whole book is setup for the big war (which is what "Mahabharat" is - "The Big Indian War"). Revenge, cunningness, righteousness. Good ingredients for any literature.

>Though the final outcome is good winning over bad, but the way in which the end is achieved teachs all immoral ways to reach the end.>

You forget to mention that each character in the book who ever commits an immoral act ends up paying for it, even if the papback is in a reincarnation. There is no escape! :-)

>What moral values are we teaching with Mahabarath when one lady is a common wives for 5 brothers? >

Look I am not an expert on Mahabharat, but please go deeper than that. You did not notice that each of the brothers is an allegory for one of the qualities of a complete human being. Yudhishthar, the eldest is Dharmaraj, or the Righeous One. Arjuna is the the skilled warrior. Bhima signifies strength. And the younger two signify sensitivity.
Every woman know how hard it is to find all the qualities in one man! :-)

Again you noticed that one lady is a common wife of 5 brothers and didn't see that multiple wives seem to be allowed in the Mahabharat, and in many cultures and religion. I think the 5 husbands is a good literary construct in Mahabharat to jolt the reader into an alternative way of thinking.

>Both Mahabaratha and Ramayan is filled with the odor called Brahminism. >

Can't deny the brahminism. Much of the ancient literature in India, such as the vedas, was developed before the creation of writing. The society was divided into various castes with one caste , the brahmins, who were responsible for passing the collective knowledge and literature to future generations. The recording was done by memorizing.

Arun