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To: davemarkun who wrote (85798)	5/25/2002 1:39:39 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116815

"blaming the Jews for everything from the weather to the killings by the secret police. Similarly, you and your buddies have committed the same fraud. I dont know how many posts I read with references to a massacre in Jenin, yet there has been no proof." Sure. That is what I say about Lithuania. No proof. I am a huckster of stock. So where do I mention stock? When? Which stock? Quotes please! I said lies? hmmmm ... So the Nazis were nasty in Lithuania? So I am a Nazi? I was in Lithuania? Jenin? I said something about Jews? Jenin? Oh! In Palestine they have divested of land? Oh.. that .. well have they? So Jews got in the rear in the Ukraine? Who is arguing? You say by the peck others by the pound. This is the issue? Well It might be. So that means Jenin never happened, because only Nazis say bad thing sabout Jews. True of false. Well maybe. Like I said, you are looking for enemies. Some would say you can find them by the pound, others by the peck. I am not sure. All you have to do is prove your case. Auschwitz, Lithuania etc.. if it's true it will appear so and be testable like scientific formula. Why should I argue? If it has false parts they can be thrown out, like you would take bad apples out of a barrel. So do it. But one word of advice. Don't just build a mountain of propaganda. I know being truthful is harder than just taking horse manure from everywhere and building a statue. It is really hard to prove things happened 50 years later. It is easy to lie and tell declamatory non facts. It is harder still to sift through the mountains of military propaganda generated by both sides and find what is true. Serious researchers who sought absolute truth and were willing to accept infamy no matter who perpetrated it have been told to accept the party line and prevented from further reasearching. Strange. What are they hiding? What I find is most people start with a prejudice, born of their sect and politics and myhologies, and then they seek to reinforce it by calling all other opinion false and with political intent. Let us now compare mythologies -- Leonard Cohen EC<:-}

To: davemarkun who wrote (85798)	5/25/2002 5:51:26 AM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116815

What a pity "dsm" is such a self-deluded super montrosity! Before you finish your "book", be so good as to read at least the first of the following books. To be sure, you will then experience a gnosis and gain a new weltanschauung. The Road Less Traveled : A New Psychology of Love, Traditional Values and Spiritual Growth by M. Scott Peck (Afterword); Paperback The Hope for Healing Human Evil by M. Scott Peck (Introduction), Scott M. Peck; Paperback Further Along the Road Less Traveled : The Unending Journey Toward Spiritual Growth by M. Scott Peck; Paperback No wonder you have been saying that I and many others on this thread are so full of hate. It is now obvious that you are the one who is indeed full of hate --- so full of hate you are writing a book on injustices perpetrated against against the Jews in Poland and Lithuania during WWII. Let us hope you are doing it for purely historical and scholastic reasons. However, knowing as I do that you are a very biased and narrow-minded person who sees a Jew-hater in every nook and cranny, even when there is none, and you have such a compulsion to be accusatory and to over-generalize that I am sure objective book-reviewers will tear your book to shreds and then you will find you have turned yourself into a laughingstock. Hopefully, the said "book" is nothing more than a figment of your deluded/demented sick mind, thereby sparing you of shame and ignominy. Oh well, maybe all along, you have been desperately seeking masochism. Or maybe that's an attempt to compensate for missed suffering with your compatriots in the 1940s! I personally know of a Polish soldier who escaped being massacred, together with his comrades, by the Nazis in a forest somewhere in Poland. He was so guilt-ridden that he committed suicide by pouring gasoline on himself and flicking on a Bic lighter 45 years!!! later in the same forest spot of the massacre. He left a suicide note at home where he had lived in utter reclusive self-mortification. Are you one of the few who escaped from or survive the massacre by those Nazis? Now I see clearly why you are so fond of saying others are so full of hate and that their pain is so palpable to you. The truth is you are the anal-retentive type of personality who compulsively attributes negative traits/tendencies you see in yourself on to others. And your revulsion against anything of a sexual nature is now quite obvious, too! I suppose you and your compatriots were abused?