[Q&A session following the lecture in the previous post]
Well, why don't I take any questions that people might have.
Hijacker and Anthrax in Florida?
The Daschle and Leahy letters were simply
to shut the government down, attack the government. There would
be very few people who would have the scientific knowledge, capability,
expertise and equipment to manufacture the super-grade weapons
anthrax behind the Daschle and Leahy letters. Not this hijacker.
Gulf War Syndrome v. Agent Orange?
Well, the Pentagon still lies about Agent
Orange and you know it took them years to finally admit that
Agent Orange produced cancer and to provide proper medical treatment
to those Veterans. They are doing the exact same thing here.
One, it is the question of financial liability for these service
people in making sure they have proper medical treatment. And
two it gets back to the point that if you start getting into
this how did Iraq get weapons specific agents and why and who
was shipping it over there and clearly it was illegal, it violated
the treaty and although not yet the statute. I do not think the
Pentagon wants to get into any of that so the cover-up goes on.
But as I said the big expose in the UK: UK troops did take the
shots, like Americans, the French rejected it, no real Gulf War
Syndrome there. And for years the UK also denied it. But the
documentary called "The Dirty War" came out and I was
a consultant on it, independent station TV 4, came out all over
Britain and I was also in it. Finally as a result of that documentary
getting front page headlines in Britain, a spokesperson for the
British Ministry of Defense admitted that there was such a thing
as the Gulf War Syndrome.
Now let me make one more point. The danger
of the syndrome is in addition here in the United States it is
microbial. In other words it is being conveyed to next of kin,
and also to health care workers who treat it. So it can and is
slowly spreading through the population. Now the upside is however,
there was a private doctor who was denied government funds, it
is a government coverup here, nevertheless, with his own resources
investigated this stuff and concluded that there was a DNA genetically
engineered mycoplasm at work and it could be treated by antibiotics.
And so he has been successfully treating some of these people.
But as I said the last figure is about 50,000 Gulf War Vets suffer
from the Gulf War Syndrome which the government still denies
exists.
There are multiple symptoms because there
was also the use of depleted uranium as well. And DU is radiological,
toxic, and carcinogenic, the government still denies that too.
And so you have everyone getting these shots, and all these vaccines
were experimental, none had been approved by the FDA for this
purpose. It clearly violated the Nuremberg code on medical experimentation.
When Dr. Huett-Vaughn refused to give them, she was court-martialed.
And there were also bromide tablets for nerve gas attacks that
were given out. They had never been tested either for nerve gas.
What they did these tablets was interfere with the firing of
nerve synapses. So the theory here was that if you got hit with
a nerve gas agent take one of these tablets and it would interfere
with shutting you down and you would be able to resume what you
were doing. None of this had been tested or approved or anything
by anyone. Of course in addition you saw the fire and all the
oil in the air and you put all this together you have a lot of
very sick people out there.
The last time I showed "The Dirty
War" here I had Major Doug Rokke in who teaches here on
this campus and he handled the DU investigation for the Pentagon.
He came in to talk about it, he can verify everything I am telling
you. He himself suffers from the Gulf War Syndrome. So you have
tens of thousands of Vets out there not getting proper medical
treatment because of the government cover-up. Indeed, it used
to be you could go to a Veteran's hospital with the symptoms
and they were instructed to say that this was just stress, it's
all in your mind.
Iraq Today?
I think Scott Ritter has put this out
correctly and also Ray Zalinskas. Ray was a biowarfare guy, and
an independent biowarfare expert. Part of the insidious nature
now of the anthrax investigation is that the FBI is going out
and saying to microbiologists, all right we want you involved
in the investigation, we are going to give you something to analyze
but you have got to sign a pledge of secrecy. So they are running
around pledging everyone to secrecy so no one can talk about
this and it is being done deliberately.
But to get back to your question, both
Ritter and Zalinskas who were UNSCOM inspectors have publicly
stated their position that Iraq's biological weapons capability
is dismantled. So if we do go back to war against Iraq, which
I certainly hope we do not, I would not think this is going to
be a significant problem. A lot of the rest of this is just propaganda,
just between you and me. Ritter was just here on campus by the
way, saying the same thing. And Zalinskas after he came back,
his UNSCOM service was over, he said it is all gone. So I would
not anticipate that would be a big problem this time.
But the last time it was. I have reputable
sources where generals say yes, we gave Iraq weapons specific
biological agents and we knew what we were doing, figuring they
were going to use it against Iran. But then they were prepared
to use it against us. Now when we blew up some of these factories
to do this, it spewed all this stuff in the air and some of our
people over there also inhaled this. So you have the vaccine,
you have the particles of this stuff in the air, you have chemical
weapons in the air, you have depleted uranium. And as I said
today 50,000 people suffering from Gulf War Syndrome and it is
slowly moving into the population. I have not seen any recent
studies on it that but there are cases of it being conveyed to
immediate family relatives, and health care workers, which indicates
a biological agent at work.
Dr. Huett-Vaughn?
As I said we were the first to raise
this issue in the Huett-Vaughn court martial. She refused to
go, she was a medical doctor, one of the reasons she said: I
do not want to give these vaccines, they are clearly experimental,
they violate the Nuremberg Code on medical experimentation, it
would be a war crime, and it violates the Hippocratic oath. We
defended her in the court martial, she was the highest ranking
officer, refused to go, desertion, five years. It would have
been the death penalty if it was a formally declared war by Congress.
In the Article 32 hearings at Ft. Leonard Wood, there was satellite
dish there. I first publicly accused these guys of inflicting
a Nuremberg crime upon our own troops. That did go out. Later
Senator Jay Rockefeller held hearings and at the end of the hearings,
he publicly stated the same thing.
Dr. Huett-Vaughn was convicted after
a total kangaroo court proceeding, taken away in chains, to Leavenworth,
in medium security. We were able to get her out eight months
later. Then they tried to strip her of her medical license. This
is a woman who spent her whole life -- she first worked in the
Bronx -- treating poor black people, community medical services.
Then she moved down to Kansas City, and there doing the same
thing and also she was one of the first doctors to treat AIDS
patients. You know, at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic doctors
were not even treating them. They tried to strip her of her medical
license. I was not involved in that one but she is still practicing
medicine in Kansas City. But at the formal court martial itself
she was stripped of all of the witnesses but me and then I was
shut down.
Loophole in BWC?
Well two things. My legislation was intended
to close that loophole. That is why I put life imprisonment in
there. We publicized it to scare the hell out of any life science
researcher that was going to get involved in this type of stuff.
Second, internationally the loophole was to be closed by means
of the verification protocol. So that if a government said we
are just doing legitimate defensive prophylactic research, you
would have qualified experts able to come into that lab, and
look at precisely what was going on. That is why Bush Jr. just
rejected it in Geneva.<
Bios v. Gas in WWI?
On the gas, in 1925 the Geneva Gas Protocol
prohibited any use of any chemical weapons except in retaliation.
By the way biological weapons too were added. That was generally
observed in the European theater in the Second World War. The
Nazis did not resort to it, we did develop anthrax, and the British
did too. Indeed, a lot of our munitions are still left over here
in Terre Haute, Indiana. Fortunately, they are downwind from
us. And a lot of that was left over from World War II is still
here, they do not know how to get rid of it. They are saying
we are going to have a super-incinerator and we are going to
burn it and again if you are living downwind, do not worry about
it, that will take care of it. But you will have to burn everything
and completely incinerate it for it to be safe. They do not know
what to do with all this.
So the problem with the Biological Weapons
Convention in 1972 then came the technology thereafter, the DNA
genetic engineering technology that would give you the capability
to develop a brand new agent using DNA genetic engineering as
well as the vaccine because the technology is the same. Indeed,
if you look at what they are doing now they will say: Oh yes
there are all these exotic diseases out there and we have to
develop vaccines against them. But if you look at how that happens,
of course they develop the offensive agent and then they develop
the vaccine and then all you would need is the aerosolization
of the product and you have a weapon. We are doing this now.
The Pentagon just laid out a contract
to Battelle now to develop anthrax that will be resistant to
any type of treatment. Right now fortunately what we are dealing
with in Washington can be treated by conventional antibiotics.
What we are now developing by the government at Battelle, it
is a matter of public record, you can read about it in the Wall
Street Journal, anthrax that would be antibiotic resistant.
This then led to the Statement that we
released at the Council of Responsible Genetics Workshop at Harvard
that was signed by Professor King, Dr. Susan Wright of the University
of Michigan, the CRG Executive Director Dr. Martin Teitel and
myself opposing this. And we are starting a campaign to try to
stop this type of work. There is another organization called
the Sunshine Institute that also works against this type of research.
And the Federation of American Scientists, Dr. Rosenberg runs
that program for them.
So this is very dangerous stuff. You
have proliferation of technology and weapons capability that
can be turned against the American people and the American government.
Third World v. Pentagon and CIA?
Well sure, but the real problem, it has
always been the problem, what about the Pentagon and the CIA?
And so far Congress has not been prepared to reign them in and
to stop this very dangerous, lethal research. It is still going
on as we speak today. That in my opinion, is still the real problem
and I believe that type of work is what is behind this recent
anthrax attack on our government. It is not some crazy people
in the third world, it was far too sophisticated for that. This
was not the type of stuff you could put together in a university
lab. That is why I do not believe the guys who hijacked the airplanes,
had anything at all to do with it. The only people who had that
capability, they all worked for the government or have worked
for the government in these biowarfare programs.
Federal Regulations?
They are dealing with the problem that
the movement of these agents had been unregulated for the most
part. As you know there is federal legislation on hazardous materials
but this is super-hazardous and it needs very stringent regulation
on all these agents for scientific purposes. Now scientists say
you cannot interfere with what we are doing. Well I never intended
to interfere with legitimate science but it turns out legitimate
science can be perverted and so there will have to be more regulation
not to stop the science but to regulate where is this agent and
what is being done with this agent, and even if we hear from
a legitimate lab and we send an agent out to the lab, where is
the guarantee that someone out there at that scientific research
institute is not going to turn this for weapons purposes? This
is the problem they have to deal with now. It is a very big problem.
But we have to distinguish that from
the anthrax attack on the government. Clearly this was a deliberate
attack designed to shut down Congress, the House and the Senate,
which they pretty much did, at a critical time. And it was by
people affiliated with Pentagon, CIA. I do not believe that at
all was any coincidence. Beyond that I cannot say, I can only
go with the facts in the public record. And as I said unfortunately
many of the microbiologists who have been given jobs to do by
the FBI have now been sworn to secrecy. And the Daschle and the
Leahy letters are all at Ft. Deitrick. Which is like putting
the foxes in charge of the chicken coop. |
