To: 2MAR$ who wrote (42760 ) 5/28/2002 1:04:52 AM From: arun gera Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167 >Why any Indian government should now expect to solve the Kashmir problem in its favor is beyond comprehension. If 180 million Muslims can no longer feel safe and secure inside India, des-pite the Herculean efforts of the country's founding fathers to make the world's largest secular democracy function without religious rancor, there is no chance that the Muslim dominated state of Kashmir will ever feel comfortable inside the Indian union.> What is the real alternative? A state based on Islam or a state, however faulty, based on democracy. A state based on Islam could not stop the killing and torture of 1 million East Pakistanis in 1970. Will it do the Kashmir part of Jammu and Kashmir (which is the real disputed state)any good if it becomes similar to Taliban controlled Afghanistan. >If 180 million Muslims can no longer feel safe and secure inside India> Do you think that the remaining 800 million feel completely secure? Do you think 300 million Pakistanis and Bangladeshis feel completely secure in their countries? Neither do Tamils and Sinhalese in Sri Lanka. The fact of the matter is that all these are poor countries with limited abilities to provide justice to the masses. Add ignorance, corruption, nepotism, and bureacracy, and the job becomes even more difficult. Given the poverty levels in the sub-continent, it is a miracle that the countries do not have incredibly high crime rates! The basic decency of human beings and associations with affinity groups is what provided some protection to the masses, and not a powerful and well-organized justice system. Affinity groups based on religion, caste, language, employment, etc. provide some protection. Therefore, when people are cornered, they withdraw into their affinity group for protection. This makes them clash with other affinity groups. These conflicts are on-going in the sub-continent, but the world tends to sensationlize them when the clashes happen to be Hindu-Muslims. Pakistan adds to the fire when the clashes are Hindu-Muslim. How well does Pakistan do in Sindhi-Punjabi, Sunni-Shia, Mohajir-non-mohajir clashes? Is justice provided in those? How well are the Hindus and other minorities protected in Pakistan and Bangladesh? But then these countries do not even have to meet the low standards of expectation that India has set. Arun