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To: David E. Taylor who wrote (23096)5/28/2002 2:02:15 PM
From: Michael Allard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 196787
 
David:

I do not believe there a 1:1 relationship with handset sales and subscribers. Anyone who upgrades handsets (for which I believe there is a tremendous pent up demand for) are not counted as an additional subscriber. I know of dozens of people waiting for new handsets to come out for upgrades.



To: David E. Taylor who wrote (23096)5/28/2002 4:53:02 PM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 196787
 
David,

<< If the subs number does in fact hit 170 million by year end, there will be a lot more than 81 million handsets sold this year. >>

Well, I finally found the source of the 2002 CDMA 170 million sub forecast (and I gather you did as well) and I am relieved that the forecast is not Qualcomm day dreaming (but somebody else's).

Slide 7 from Analysts Day shows 170 million as the average of forecasts from 3 research houses:

* EMC (9/01) about 191 million
* Strategy Analytics (1/02) about 165 million
* Cahners (4/02) about 153 million


EMC is far and away the highest forecast, and also the oldest.

I'm not sure why Qualcomm would use a 9/01 EMC forecast since EMC updates their forecasts quarterly to their clients (Qualcomm is a client) ... and the December overall revision after a punk quarter was substantial, but without those EMC numbers they wouldn't have been able to show a CAGR of 30% for CDMA thru 2005 (... or am I being cynical from watching this drama for so many years? <g>).

Last 27 months look like this:

                                   Year    Cum    YOY    
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Adds Subs Growth

2000 7,185 8,640 5,077 9,438 30,340 80,440 61%
2001 9,963 5,910 6,871 8,167 30,911 111,351 38%
2002 8,867 - - - - - -


FWIW: Since my WAG is probably as worthless as anyone else's, if all goes well this year I am anticipating maximum 42 million net adds for a cumulative subscriber base of approximately 153 million (~38% growth rate - same as last year). I personally think that is aggressive, but doable.

Last year (using Qualcomm's 74 million number from Strategy Analytics) replacement handsets were 58% of sell in, which seems high to me, BWDIK.

To get to 80 million handsets this year, replacement sales would need to be 47.5% of sell in (assuming above).

To get to 85 million handsets this year, replacement sales would need to be 50.5% of sell in (assuming above).

85 million handsets will be a stretch, IMO, but if we reach it we are likely to have some rather stuffed channels headed into C0103.

Qualcomm slides here (9.2 MB)

qualcomm.com

- Eric -