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To: Eric L who wrote (2264)5/28/2002 7:22:21 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9255
 
<So that’s sort of my rant on that> Ref my rant on the free thread..

Happy to see some basic Juha-intellectual honesty, and he has a point on developer enviroment,
although Watcom and Quarterdeck, Pharlap was much greater and pregnant than the lousy
joke of Visual Basics.

Funny stuff, I have been pestering one Visual basic buddy on those tools, and some time
ago he called to tell me that the XP-NET version makes it possible to monitor even two areas
in memory...wow.... just like in medieval times...

One more devolution to when memory space was open to both debuggers and developers,
handled by a safe memory model operating system. (Phar Lap as well as Amiga, not to forget
babylonian,claytable VMS)

Without starting WInDumb ontop of another Operating System like SoftICE, Intel was never
allowed to do that.

Although TI is famously crappy for their developer enviroment, it is nothing like the
closed, closewelded hood of Visual WinDoze and Suddenly UnTracableCrash...

Ilmarinen

Funny thing, Intel has fought this stupidity for years, and now they have to step down
because of the very same reasons, but maybe Ballmer can take the blame for that,
publicly cangarooing around the scene head down, for unpredictable reasons??



To: Eric L who wrote (2264)5/30/2002 11:32:55 AM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9255
 
re: New Liberty Alliance Members

New sponsor members are: Cingular Wireless, i2 Technologies Inc., Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, SAP and Wave Systems Inc.

Founding members of the Alliance are: American Express, AOL Time Warner, Bell Canada, Citigroup, France Telecom, General Motors, Hewlett-Packard Company, Mastercard International, Nokia, NTT DoCoMo, Openwave Systems, RSA Security, Sony Corporation, Sun Microsystems, United Airlines and Vodafone.

>> Liberty Alliance Project Adds New Members, Expands Potential For Not-For-Profit, Government Involvement Globally

New Membership Levels Also Encourage Broader Corporate Involvement

May 29, 2002
Nokia Joint PR

The Liberty Alliance Project, a group committed to developing open, interoperable specifications for network identity, announced today five new sponsor members. The Liberty Alliance also announced two new membership levels in response to growing interest in the Alliance from corporations, not-for-profits and government organizations.

The Liberty Alliance plans to release the first phase of its specification this summer. The phase one specification will create a federated network identity and authentication sharing mechanism that will interoperate with existing identification systems and network access devices.

New Liberty Alliance Members

The new sponsor members represent major companies and innovative start-ups from the U.S., Europe and Japan. The companies are: Cingular Wireless, i2 Technologies Inc., Nippon Telegraph and Telephone, SAP and Wave Systems Inc. Sponsor companies are able to attend and vote in any of the various expert groups within the Alliance, focusing on technology, public policy and marketing. They also have the ability to access and comment on draft specifications and proposals prior to public release.

The new and previously announced members span various industries, from travel and transportation, to software and security, to financial services and telecommunications. This range of support demonstrates progress toward the Liberty Alliance’s goal to deliver an identity standard that will offer value to consumers and businesses across different industries.

"One of the greatest benefits of this type of alliance is the combined knowledge, expertise and efforts of diverse companies working together for a common goal," said Eric Dean, chairman of the Liberty Alliance and chief information officer of United Airlines. "The development of interoperable, federated identification standards will have the power to drive e-commerce, enhance relationships among businesses and their customers, vendors and employees – and ultimately evolve computing in every industry."

New Affiliate and Associate Level Membership

The Liberty Alliance also announced today the availability of Affiliate level membership to encourage not-for-profits and government groups to participate in and lend their expertise to the Liberty Alliance. These organizations may join at the Affiliate level free of charge. The Associate membership level was also announced today for companies interested in participating in the Alliance but not wishing to participate at a sponsor level. Associate membership fees are $1,000 USD per year.

"Identity management is a key enabler for the next wave of Internet commerce, yet identity must be federated across businesses, service providers, companies and individuals to deliver global scalability," said Daniel Blum, senior vice president and research director at Burton Group, an IT research and advisory firm focusing on identity management. "Federated identity management can best flourish through open standards made available to the whole industry. The Liberty Alliance is moving in the right direction by becoming one of the few organizations of its kind to open membership levels on generous terms to both public and commercial organizations."

Both Affiliate and Associate members will have the ability to review and comment on draft specifications and other output prior to public release. These members are also invited to attend special meetings held twice a year to receive updates and offer input on the strategic direction of the Liberty Alliance and the progress of the specifications.

The next all-member meeting will be held in the third quarter of this calendar year.

About the Liberty Alliance Project

The Liberty Alliance Project is an alliance formed to develop and deploy open, federated, network identification specifications that support all current and emerging network devices in the digital economy. Federated identity will help drive the next generation of the Internet, offering businesses and consumers convenience, choice and control. Membership is open to all commercial and non-commercial organizations.

Founding members of the Alliance are: American Express, AOL Time Warner, Bell Canada, Citigroup, France Telecom, General Motors, Hewlett-Packard Company, Mastercard International, Nokia, NTT DoCoMo, Openwave Systems, RSA Security, Sony Corporation, Sun Microsystems, United Airlines and Vodafone.

Web site:

projectliberty.org <<

- Eric -