To: Ali Chen who wrote (80827 ) 5/28/2002 2:26:27 PM From: wanna_bmw Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872 Re: "How you can convey anything to inexperienced readers by supplying incorrect details? Are you in your mind?" Are you trying to ask if I am "out of my mind"? Reminds me of 2010, the Kubrick film, where the Russian astronaut used to say phrases like "piece of pie" and "easy as cake". I can see from the broken English that your argument is falling apart. I have tried explaining to you that the Ace's article fits its purpose, but apparently you hold it to much higher standards than I do. Re: "The article wrongly equated cache invalidates with cache flushes during other agent's WRITE operation. I pointed the discrepancy out, but you picked the fight saying it is correct. I explained why it is incorrect, then you switched the topic to READs, and now you pathetically squirm about "inexact correctness of the details". Get lost now." I think you're confused again. The article was not speaking about Intel implementation specific functions, such as the cache flush operation. They correctly said that the cache must get invalidated or "flushed" as a result to an I/O device writing (inbound) to main memory. The dictionary defines a "flush" as the following.To force temporarily buffered data to be written to more permanent memory dictionary.com As I tried to explain before, they miss the details that a write to a cache line that is not previously owned by the requesting device must do a read for ownership, which as you explain is the direct cause for a cache invalidate or implicit write back (flush). However, you are nit-picking these details, which I think are unimportant for the kind of audience that Ace's has. Further, your pathetic attempt to turn this around on me and challenge my level of experience speaks volumes about your own level of insecurity. Re: "you would not want to be happen around" More broken English. Am I upsetting you? wbmw