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To: Windsock who wrote (80852)	5/28/2002 4:58:42 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

RE: Another example of an unstable eMachines shipped millions of unstable Intel systems - then they switched to AMD processors, and their problems went away.

To: Windsock who wrote (80852)	5/28/2002 5:34:22 PM
From: rsi_boy	Respond to of 275872

Another one?! uh oh, SELL! SELL! Seriously though, I bet if this guy checks the sticker on his power supply it will read 14A on the 3.3V rail. Just like most cheapo "300" Watt power supplies that are not AMD approved. Typically these power supplies only add up to 300 watts when you sum the max theoretical power of each rail (including the negative ones) and assume that the PC never draws current from more than one rail at time. (Outside of marketing departments, these sorts of assumptions are otherwise known as "lying") The result: intermittent and unpredictable crashes. Seen it many times before. The problem used to be somewhat epidemic amongst DIY'ers buying cheap generic cases. Since the introduction of the P4 (and thanks to willamete's even higher power demands than the Athlon) I think the generic PSUs have generally gotten better (simply by virtue of having to be P4 compatible)

To: Windsock who wrote (80852)	5/28/2002 8:48:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

RE:"I have a problem with my windows 2000 machine always freezing up intermittently, sometime it stays on 2 hours, sometimes, it can't even get past the logon screen without freezing...not sure if it's a hardware or software issue though.... AMD K7- 1333 MHz cpu, 60 GB ibm IDE drive, ECS-K7S5A motherboard, with an older 52x cdrom drive, and generic floppy drive, AGP ATI Radeon 7500 dual monitor, integrated SIS NIC and audio, and a secondary 3COM NIC(3c905B)...... I gave it a clean install of windows 2000, updated all the patches that the windows updater found, all the patches that norton updater found, checked for viruses with the latest virus definitions, changed the hd,cd config so, hd=prim,Master, and cd=sec,slave... I gave up when I took it to bestbuy and they looked at it and $30 later told me that there's nothing wrong with it...they couldn't tell if it was a hardware or software problem, but did suggest that I might want to try a new BIOS flash update. It didn't crash on them once... ARRGGGHHH... Does anyone know why this problem is happening? It crashed/froze on me about 15 times in 2 hours... I would start it up, and then about 2 minutes after the ctrl-alt-del screen appeared to log on, i would see the floppy drive led light up for a second, then immediately the hard drive led would light up...it would freeze most often at this point, before I even logged on... just by moving the mouse..it would freeze...Not sure why, anybody else have this problem." THIS is HILARIOUS....the guy takes a homebuilt computer to Best Buy for tech support? Who knows what drivers or PS he's using... RE:"ECS-K7S5A motherboard" I suggest he go to one of the websites concerning this motherboard.... BTW, I have this motherboard running w/1900+ Palomino...no problems... Jim