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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: briskit who wrote (12417)	5/29/2002 2:48:10 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

ONE Nation Under Fraud.... Message 17526357 119293!!

To: briskit who wrote (12417)	5/29/2002 3:13:13 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

Mike.... >>Maybe Romans created and dramatized the idea of Jesus as God. Very early attempts were made to interpret the life and death of Jesus. Paul writes to Phillipi quoting an existent source (a poem or hymn?) saying Jesus did not consider it robbery to be equal with God. The Romans considered Christians atheists for not engaging in emperor worship. They were not likely to advance ideas of a special role played by Jesus. Mark, the most Roman account, utilizes the Messianic secret idea, veiling the person and purpose of the messiah from the apostles, but not women and social outcasts. John, 50 years later, is very straightforward, identifying Jesus with the logos, with God from the beginning. These writings occur within 75 years of the death of Jesus. Paul writes within the lifetime of first-hand witnesses of the events. I think you are referring to creeds which later tried to make specific philosophical distinctions in the various conceptions being offered.>> We are the the threshold of were, very soon, we will see a return of the era of religion fusing with the states. For when it comes to "mankind's religion" the two were never separated to begin with. Mankind simply replaced the religion of doctrine and dogma with a new form of religion which is wrapped up in the conditional equity contracts which are supported by 60 million statutes and claims designed to enslave and control the populace while protecting and advancing the wealth of a privaledged elite financial class. This New ONE World Nation State has been in the making since "our country tis of the was founded". And the "God" of this ONE World Nation State is totally antithetically opposed to the unconditional freedom, light, energy and love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ. The "New Romans" are individuals who worship the power of the state over the rights of man. The "New Romans" are individuals who believe that rights are priviledges and that these priviledges come from the state - ie. man - and not God. And the "New Romans" will label these "New Jerusalem Christians" atheists for not engaging in "emperor worship" -ie. chosing to be FREE American citizens who are individuals who believe 1) "rights" come from God and not man; 2) that these rights are inalienable. If we receive the truth are are called to freely share it with others. If we find evidence of fraud in the current system we are called to speak and share the truth about such fraud with others so that they, too, can be free from the tyranny controls and hidden agendas which fraud naturally extracts against the individual. The entire "religious" establishment has been servant hand-maiden obliging and supporting the current control-distrust slavery model. Some may preach against it but only to advance and serve their own purposes - building the congregations on a negative bias while at the same time winking and looking the other way at all the mounting evidence of fraud. There's going to be an alphabet fusion of current "faiths" into a more active and aggressive sponsorship of this New ONE World State for the politicians cannot hold a candle to the influence and trust that some of the more aggressive ministers and clergy have over the general public. And if you will note, there's been a lot done to put this New ONE World governement in the role of being the "protector" of mankind's "religions" in statutes and rules, treaties, commissions and conditional rights that, again, extend from "man" instead of "God." Thanks for sharing Mike. 119293!!

To: briskit who wrote (12417)	5/29/2002 11:39:15 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I was going to answer you , but Fredrick answered so completely <G> Like Jesus , he is a man with a mission .... ;-) It is notable that the spread of Christianity was done mostly thru the hermetics and monks though ...as after the romans did convert and most of the Empire did as well, the feeling was to get back to the source teaching , that the message had been dilluted and lost in popularization. 1500ys ago , they were also trying to get back to that "old time religion " ... Chritianity is in essence, a very monastic teaching , of giving up the things of the world and becoming unnattached of desire and ego , and being "married" to the spirit etc etc.