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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (48531)	5/29/2002 12:18:52 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

This was what I said. It does not just mention JLA: I have been pretty generally disgusted with this flame war. Laz had to beat the dead horse; Christopher is falling into blanket defensiveness, instead of "owning" his blame in the matter; JLA and Bill are piling on. I admit that one of the worst things I have seen is the reaction to mentioning your mother's death. That is a time to apologize and shut up, not ratchet up the flame war, and JLA blew it. On the other hand, I cannot abide all of this falderol about right- wingers when you have expressed sentiments about as right- wing as anyone else around here, and I especially dislike the Nazi reference. If Beanie Babies becomes habitable, I may be back, but for now, I think I will avoid posting here, at least for a day or two. If I fail to respond to a post on Beanies, that is why. I will respond to something attached to this, but that is it for awhile........

To: Bill who wrote (48531)	5/29/2002 12:21:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

And this is what I said today, and it does focus on Christopher: I don't want to single them out, even if they "started" it. Under the circumstances, you are in a situation where a soft answer, or none at all, would be appropriate. Let me tell you a more personal reason why I have taken the position I have with respect to your actions. My father has done quite a few things to wreak havoc in the lives of his family. He was a womanizer; he was ungenerous, if dutiful, after divorce; he has basically been unloving, or perhaps better, what love he may have for his sons is weak relative to his selfishness and egotism. This has not only had material consequences to myself and my brothers, but emotional consequences. Nevertheless, I am relatively better off than one of my brothers, who continually nurses his bitterness, and one of the reasons is that, although my father deserves blame for his irresponsibility and should have had an inkling of the consequences of his actions, I understand that he did not fully appreciate what he was doing, and did not deliberately and maliciously set out to harm us. Thus, I am much less bitter, and more able to deal with my father. The main thing that has happened is that I have striven to be a much better father than he has been, and that is the most constructive kind of revenge. Now, I recognize a pattern in what has happened here of reckless and irresponsible behavior, but without a deliberate design to do the utmost harm. I do not let you off the hook, but I am not hardened against you. Still, I would like to discern in you an understanding that you made your bed, and a willingness to sleep in it for awhile, which includes foregoing a flaming response to those that attack you. I do not expect you to leave SI, which is why I will not shun you. But I do expect you to make the main effort to come to a peaceful conclusion........