To: Charles Tutt who wrote (49308 ) 5/29/2002 12:41:45 PM From: Just_Observing Respond to of 64865 Intel exaggerates with the best of them. During the Intel Microprocessor Conference held earlier this year, they purported to show the performance of Sun's new 1050 Cu chips. They showed that these new chips were 15% faster than the existing 900 Mhz chips. As is well known, Sun got a nice jump in performance with the 17% gain in speed "The UltraSPARC III Cu 1050 processor, set for availability for Sun workstation products in early 2002, features a 1.05 GHz clock speed, a SPECint mark of 610 and a SPECfp mark of 827. These respective 32 percent and 72 percent performance increases are particularly impressive when compared to the new processor's overall 17 percent clock speed gain. These outsized performance gains result from improved manufacturing techniques, enhanced internal buffer sizes and management, and more efficient object code generated by a new version of the Forte compiler. " Intel has a relatively short window in which to gain sufficient momentum for their Itaniums before the much cheaper 64 bit AMD chips hit the market. Look for the fud to increase dramatically in the next few weeks. The Inquirer had something to say about the Intel benchmarks today:Itanic 2 whops Sun by factor of ten Sun doesn't shine moonshine shines By Tony Dennis at the Munich IDF, 29/05/2002 12:09:36 BST THE UNFORTUNATELY named senior VP for enterprise platforms with Intel, Mike Fister, showed benchmarks for the Itanium 2 today at the Munich IDF conference which he claims show that in certain circumstances the Intel chip outperforms a Sun RISC chip by a factor of ten. The benchmark in question relates to intel's own estimate of how the Itanic will perform when running a security application. The comparison is between an Itanic running at 1GHz and a Sun USIII running at 750 MHz. Doesn't exactly strike me as a fair comparison but then I'm only a communications hack. Anyway this particular benchmark was based on prelimanry tests performed by Coradiant Research. At the other end of the scale the Itanic is apparently only 1.3 times faster when running a SPECint2000 benchmark. The claims are surrounded by disclaimers such as ' processor numbers are forecasted target [sic] on production systems based on Intel estimates'. The 1050 Cu chips were supposed to ship during the second half of February '02. Why has Sun not released them yet? BTW, Sun's high end servers 12K and 15K have been constrained for quite a few weeks now. Even the older 10K servers have been coming up constrained during the last week or so. sun.com theinquirer.net