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To: GVTucker who wrote (165504)	5/29/2002 3:43:02 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 186894

"Bush is doing worse than I ever imagined he could as president, and my standards for him were rather low to start. Beyond what you mention, the steel tariff and farm subsidy are indications that Bush won't be much help for the domestic economy at all. It is hard for me to imagine a way that Gore could have done any worse" ---- No one wants to make any hard choices...seems like Bush and Congress are scared to death of middle eastern powers. Lobbies and the press in full flower too. So far they are just nibbling around the edges trying not to insult anyone. I'm not even sure which country controls Congress. I do see some college demonstrations though. That's a start.

To: GVTucker who wrote (165504)	5/29/2002 3:45:02 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 186894

RE:"It is hard for me to imagine a way that Gore could have done any worse." Gore would have likely screwed up worse. Sometimes the forces in play are too strong for anything less than forced changes... Jim

To: GVTucker who wrote (165504)	5/29/2002 4:04:47 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

GV, <It is hard for me to imagine a way that Gore could have done any worse.> It isn't for me. Look at the antics of Gray Davis and his cronies in California for an example of how things could be worse. Tenchusatsu

To: GVTucker who wrote (165504)	5/29/2002 7:08:49 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

GV, When did the Democrats turn into fiscal conservatives, and the Republicans into fiscal liberals? On 9/11 (and Bush): Absolutely not to dismiss the tragedy of 9/11, but was it a one time (fabulously successful terrorist) event, or was it something that changes everything, forever? Was it an event that may never be repeated, or may be repeated once, or twice, or something that will become routine? Do we continue to sacrifice our civil liberties and privacy laws, do we ruin the peacetime economy that both Democrat and Republican administrations have struggled for, because of 9/11? Whats the realistic, non-emotional, detached bottom line response to 9/11? The Brooklyn Bridge is still there, as is the Statue of Liberty, and all the pre-Memorial day apartment complexes. Anyone that was paying attention in the early 70's remembers terrorists that were much more successful on a frequency basis, if not a scale basis, than the 9/11 assholes. We are less than 4 months away from the 9/11 anniversary, sure to be a time of many terrorist warnings and huge emotion by and for the victims. Do folks choose that as a time to put this behind them, or a time to increase the angst? What was the Chinese proverb about interesting times? John