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To: Elmer who wrote (81133)	5/31/2002 5:20:36 AM
From: Gopher Broke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

what evidence do you have that Intel is adding 64-bit addressing to their x86 processors No direct evidence. But do you think it would be wise for Intel to ignore what Microsoft are telling them?

To: Elmer who wrote (81133)	5/31/2002 1:43:56 PM
From: dumbmoney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Other than hype (obviously convincing evidence to Droids) what evidence do you have that Intel is adding 64-bit addressing to their x86 processors? I don't know that they are, just that they will. Unless they stop making x86 processors and leave that little market to AMD. Or other equally unlikely conditions. And of course, AMD's x86-64 increases the urgency. By the way, are you are the same Elmer who wrote: Ok, if it'll make you feel better, I hope Intel is doing 64-bit x86 extensions and I hope they are doing them for Prescott and if I was to place a bet then I would bet they are in fact doing it, and probably on Prescott. Additionally I don't think there's a snowball's chance in Hell that they'll use Hammers instructions. But I still honestly don't know anything about it and if I did I wouldn't have said what I just said.

To: Elmer who wrote (81133)	5/31/2002 2:17:12 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Other than hype (obviously convincing evidence to Droids) what evidence do you have that Intel is adding 64-bit addressing to their x86 processors? Jim Carlson Director of Marketing IA-64 Systems at HPQ must be part of the hype. He is obviously making things up in order to help AMD, and to eliminate his own job: Yamhill is one of many projects intended to give life to x86, HP's Jim Carlson tells us, but it leaves breathing room for Itanium. Yamhill is Intel's skunkworks effort to add 64bit instructions to the x86 line. Jim is product marketing chief for IA-64 at HP, and IA-64 is Intel's multi-billion dollar, long-term successor to x86. But Jim didn't flinch from tackling our Yamhill questions head on. "Yamhill is where Intel is working on the IA-32 line; they expect to have good returns for 8-10 years; they have 6 or 7 projects to give the IA-32 line a long life." "They may do Yamhill if AMD becomes a threat to them - they're very paranoid," he says. But Xeons are already giving low-end RISC a good run for its money, and the SMT Xeons turn up the heat considerably. Jim agrees. " IA32 will provide a phenomenal value proposition - for a decade - but the high end is where Intel is trying to get into, that's the focus, and a Yamhill extension doesn't provide that the reliability and scaling that IA-64 offers. That's built into IA-64. IPF is already 64 bits; you can plug-it in down the road; the 64bitness is already there." ... theregister.co.uk Joe