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To: John who wrote (169490)	6/1/2002 8:44:07 AM
From: Box-By-The-Riviera™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

so, are you saying you'd like to call a spade a spade? how bout a list of ten. make that two lists. one list is PC, the other list is whatever PC is not per your post. Then I will understand better what you mean.

To: John who wrote (169490)	6/1/2002 9:21:58 AM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

You are contradicting yourself. A nation where pride is a one-size-fits-all product is NOT diverse. It is the exact opposite of diverse. Modern America has tremendous diversity in skin-tone, but IMO precious little diversity in actual thought or outlook on life. intelligent people read and understand "The Bell Curve" You mean they understand it is a hopeless mess of psuedo-science and New Math...right? hope I live long enough to see the natural order restored to Earth Considering the universe is a constantly-evolving place, I can't even begin to imagine what you mean by either "the" natural order or even "restored".

To: John who wrote (169490)	6/1/2002 9:31:36 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

As a person who uses statistics as the major tool in my profession I wish to say something. I view "the bell curve" as utter tripe. I really mean that btw. Anybody with firing neurons can rip the arguments to shreds. It is of course brainwashing crap to start with. The only thing it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is some people in the USA are racists.

To: John who wrote (169490)	6/1/2002 3:23:50 PM
From: Oblomov	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

"The Bell Curve" was poorly argued. I do not think that it was intentionally racist, but I do think that it aided the agenda of racists. This in itself does not mean that the book was wrong. The shoddy arguments presented in the book are what make it wrong.