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To: chalu2 who wrote (15005)	6/4/2002 3:51:27 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Re: But, still, they do not return home. They must either have a mental defect, be masochists of the worst kind OR find life there so much sweeter than what they might experience in the Islamofascist fascist world. I vote for choice # 3. Wrong again! Most North African immigrants do return home... every year, habitually on Summer holidays. You must keep in mind that being an (North African/Turkish) immigrant in Europe is far different from being an immigrant in the US. In Europe, they don't have to work all year long to scrape the cash together to buy the ticket to fly back home --they just have to buy the roadmap of France/Spain, and drive their own car down to Marseilles or Gibraltar to embark the ferryboat... Besides, remember that even Jewish smartasses took chances in the 1930s and stuck to Europe --despite all the ominous forerunners (Hitler came to power in 1933). Likewise, today's immigrants take chances, all the more so because they know that their homelands are just a stone's throw away (across the Mediterranean). Take the burial issue for instance. Only one or two Belgian graveyards provide for proper Muslim burials whereas Jews have for long been granted their own kosher cemeteries... Hence North African immigrants rely on funerary shuttle companies to repatriate the corpses back to the graveyard of their native village (in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria,...) The corpse of the raped 5-year-old Lubna Benaissa was buried in her family's Moroccan village, not in Brussels. So, if Jewish insiders were so silly as to stick around in 1930s Europe (remember: Euro Jews were bankers, pianists, journalists, medics,... while Arab immigrants are janitors, cabbies or jobless) despite the rise of anti-Semitism and Nazism, why should we expect today's Arab outcasts to behave more... preemptively??? Gus

To: chalu2 who wrote (15005)	8/13/2002 4:58:51 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Follow-up to my post #15081. Re: Take the burial issue for instance. Only one or two Belgian graveyards provide for proper Muslim burials whereas Jews have for long been granted their own kosher cemeteries... Hence North African immigrants rely on funerary shuttle companies to repatriate the corpses back to the graveyard of their native village (in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria,...) The corpse of the raped 5-year-old Lubna Benaissa was buried in her family's Moroccan village, not in Brussels. Muslims in Western Europe Dim drums throbbing in the hills half heard Aug 8th 2002 From The Economist print edition economist.com Excerpt: Certainly, some Islamic practices seem jarring to Europeans. The ritual slaughter of tens of thousands of sheep at the annual feast known as Aid al-Adha draws a shocked response each year in France. Less upsetting but still awkward are Islamic burial requirements, some of which (the ban on coffins) conflict with public-health laws. Since exhumation is also strictly forbidden under Islam, and bodies must be buried as soon as possible, 90% of Germany's Muslims are flown home to be buried once they die. France has only one Muslim cemetery, at Bobigny, and Germany none, though land at Tempelhof in Berlin may yet be used. In Le Val Fourré [France], the bodies of older Muslims are also sent home, though the young are usually buried in the Catholic cemetery. Such practices serve to perpetuate the links with the homeland. So does the reluctance of many states to grant citizenship to their immigrants, sometimes even to the children of immigrants born in Europe. [...] ___________________________