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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ThirdEye who wrote (261043)	6/4/2002 12:59:12 PM
From: Arthur Radley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Ashcroft! Do you mean the current Attorney General that when he was sworn in to this new office after being beaten in the Senate race by a dead man, the same AG that had Clarence Thomas to swear him in and annointed his head with cooking oil...Yeap! Sprinkled him with cooking oil and who was this sprinkler...the same Playboy porn reading Clarence Thomas!

To: ThirdEye who wrote (261043)	6/4/2002 1:06:21 PM
From: Arthur Radley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Everything is fine! Bush is leading us with a steady hand! Our security systems are getting better! Bush really cares about the envirnoment! When it appears that some of his staunchest supporters are now questioning his leadership...Rush Limbaugh calling him George W. AlGore? If all is well...why is the stock market crashing ...down over 200 points yesterday...and already down another 100 points to day......? Hello...Shrub, gives us an update!

To: ThirdEye who wrote (261043)	6/4/2002 1:37:59 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

Some really thoughtful things in that commentary. Two in particular seem of interest: 1) The best encapsulation of the underlying grounds for our current war... and what we should be fighting for: "The struggle against theocratic fascism should, ...be inseparable from the struggle for a truly secular state. And, 2) A remembrance of Andalusia, and what secularism can accomplish: "Little, Brown has chosen the perfect moment to publish The Ornament of the World, by Maria Rosa Menocal. It is a history of medieval "Al-Andalus," or Andalusia: a culture where there was extensive cooperation and even symbiosis among Muslims, Jews and Christians, and where civilization touched a point hardly surpassed since fifth-century Athens. ...It was the Abbasid caliphs of Baghdad in the ninth and tenth centuries who sponsored the translation of the whole corpus of Greek philosophy into Arabic, thus preserving it from the ban on philosophy that had been imposed by the first Christian emperors. It was the Arab-Andalusian scholar Averroës, known also as Ibn Rushd, who later, in the twelfth century, made his commentaries on Aristotle available to the Latin-speaking world, where they were yet again banned by the Church fathers before finally being recovered by Europe. So it is no exaggeration to say that what we presumptuously call "Western" culture is owed in large measure to the Andalusian enlightenment. ...We tend to forget that Maimonides, another great figure of this culture, wrote almost all his major works--with the exception of the Mishneh Torah--in Arabic. Nothing could be more remote from the bleak and arid doctrines of the Taliban. However, it was not Muslim but Christian intolerance that put an end to Andalusia. By 1492 their Catholic majesties Ferdinand and Isabella had completed the reimposition of orthodoxy and begun the expulsion of the Jews and Moors. It was to the Muslim world that the Jews then looked for safety. This book partly restores to us a world we have lost, a world for which our current monotheistic leaderships do not even feel nostalgia."