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To: Elmer who wrote (81603)	6/4/2002 1:45:32 PM
From: jjayxxxx	Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Re: <Why is AMD starting to separate this into 2 processor families? Why are they now referring to "eighth-generation AMD Athlon processors" as something different from Opteron?> Why? You'll have to ask someone more knowledgeable, but I think they're trying to differentiate the desktop-class from the server-class (athlon:opteron similar to pentium:xeon). <Is Clawhammer an Athlon?> Yes, the desktop variant of Hammer will be an Athlon by name (with "64" tacked on for good measure?). Sledgehammer (and I think dual Clawhammers?) will be Opterons. At least if I have remembered correctly. JJ

To: Elmer who wrote (81603)	6/4/2002 1:47:14 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Yes, Clawhammer will be called Athlon XXXX, where XXXX is TBD. Petz

To: Elmer who wrote (81603)	6/4/2002 1:50:49 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Is Clawhammer an Athlon? Desktop Clawhammer will be Athlon, server Hammers Opteron. Joe

To: Elmer who wrote (81603)	6/4/2002 2:39:02 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Didn't Intel initiate AGP 8X? How come there are no AGP 8X demos yet? biz.yahoo.com AMD Demonstrates New Graphics Standard, AGP-8x, on AMD's Future Eighth-Generation Processor Eighth-generation AMD Athlon processor-based platform showcases AGP-8x graphics capability; previews performance enhancements for customers TAIPEI, Taiwan--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 4, 2002-- At Computex Taipei 2002, AMD today demonstrated new graphics standard, AGP-8x, on the upcoming eighth-generation AMD Athlon(TM) processor-based platform. Platforms based on the AMD eighth-generation architecture and AGP-8x technology are designed to provide customers the advanced graphics technology they seek, including low memory latency, increased data throughput, and the option for larger cache sizes. The demonstration was performed on a system that included an AMD-8151(TM) Graphics Tunnel, with a core logic component based on AGP-8x and HyperTransport(TM) technologies, and a SiS Xabre AGP-8x graphics card. "Implementing new technologies like AGP-8x on AMD's future eighth-generation processor-based platforms is designed to increase the data throughput between the processor and the graphics card," said Rich Heye, vice president of Platform Engineering and Infrastructure, AMD's Computation Products Group. "Customers using graphically intense applications, ranging from gamers to digital content creators, will benefit from faster screen refreshes and reduced graphics data bottlenecks enabled by systems based on these new platforms." "Native support for AGP-8x on both the SiS Xabre Graphics Card and AMD Opteron(TM) and eighth-generation AMD Athlon platform is designed to provide the system resources necessary to significantly improve our customers' graphical experience," said Shing Wong, senior vice-president, SiS Corporation. "With more than 2.1GB/s of bandwidth, today we saw a sneak preview of the potential of this powerful combination." Support for AGP-8x technology is among many system design enhancements in AMD's upcoming eighth-generation processor family to help reduce system bottlenecks. Others include HyperTransport technology and an integrated DDR memory controller. Shipments of the AMD Opteron processor for servers and workstations are planned to begin in the first half of 2003. Shipments of AMD's eighth-generation AMD Athlon processor for desktops are planned to begin in the fourth quarter of 2002. On the Intel side, apparently AGP 8X won't be available for Intel customers until the Granite Bay chipset Although Intel has yet to announce the chipset, it seems like AMD's openness with non-shipping products (Hammer) may be rubbing off on Intel when it comes to their Granite Bay chipset. The Granite Bay chipset will be launching either late this year or by Q2 next year and is the first dual-channel DDR solution for the desktop Pentium 4. The chipset will mark Intel's phase-out process of RDRAM from the desktop market for the foreseeable future. Other than a dual-channel DDR memory controller, the chipset also supports AGP 8X and will be aimed at high-end desktop and workstation systems.http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1631&p=4 Petz