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To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (14195)	6/5/2002 3:25:56 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 21057

The elder Bush got suckered by the Dems on the read my lips deal. But, in politics as in many endeavors, never doesn't always mean never. In fact, that example is a perfect one of the need for pragmatism trumping a campaign promise. Same for W's alleged unqualified no dipping into SS funds. Clearly the war was something which was not reasonably anticipated at the time. This IS the reality of politics. Clinton's actions to lie and coverup his misuse of his position and office are quite another matter. And those actions are quite a bit more indicative and probative as evidence on the quality of the subject's character and integrity.....

To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (14195)	6/5/2002 5:28:59 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

<<He didn't just say "no new taxes" or even just "read my lips, no new taxes." He set it up with a preface which said that he would be the bulwark of resistance against those who would cite circumstances as making new taxes necessary. That is why the electorate punished him.>> He got screwed on that. The deal he made with Congress was that every dollar raised would go to debt reduction. In he end Congress spent $1.88 for every dollar raised. As I remember the taxes were on luxury vehicles, yachts and jewelry over $10,000. My neighbor, who couldn't raise the down stroke on any of the taxed items, was most irate about it.