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To: E. Charters who wrote (86537)6/6/2002 12:49:52 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116791
 
<< 1800 all you got was a cap
lock muzzle loader. It wasn't till about 1865 that
you got decent rifles with the Henry or winchester
type action the snider block breech loader and finally
the Enfield and Martini Henry action.>>

If decent means fast reloading, guess you're correct, but did you ever check into the energy delivered from some of those muzzle loaders with top powder loads? We all are made to think of the muxxle loaders as underpowered, but they often were loaded with 180 gr. ffg. The most "famous" Wincester was 38-40 .38 cal. loaded with 40 gr ffg.
There were 45-70's - same as the Springfield trap door - yes, .45 cal 70 gr ffg loading I believe it was a 420 gr. bullet standard loading for the winchester(but would have to look it up).