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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (12205)	6/7/2002 6:45:21 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 12475

India do that job of eliminating the terrorist camps... Keep dreaming. India had a hard time getting back a few hills in the Kargil area a couple of years ago, losing several hundred soldiers over several weeks before the enemy retreated. India, as we know have no territorial designs in Pakistan, not even the Pakistan held part of Kashmir. Maybe that's why the schools in the BJP-ruled states have students use geography books that show a "greater India" which includes not only Pakistan, but also Tibet, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Laos, Cambodia... did they forget anything?! The Indian army withdrew from Lahore and forced Pakistan to peace talks resulting in a peace agreement at the Simla summit. A similar thing needs to be done now. India can do squat. So stop blathering! As it is, Pakistan has succeeded in internationalizing the Kashmir issue, with everybody from the EU to the US to the UN, offering to mediate and do this and that. So the only thing that India can do is to stop screwing-up any further! But knowing their track-record, I wouldn't bet on India not doing anything stupid again.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (12205)	6/8/2002 12:24:04 AM
From: Nandu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12475

JPR, it would be suicidal for the US and the British troops to be stationed on the LoC. And here is why. These troops, if they are stationed on the Afghan/Pakistan border would not be that vulnerable to attacks from the Osamas and Talibanis since they have air cover and surveillance from US base in Kandahar. Instead, if they move to the LoC, then they have nowhere to go if there is a military confrontation between them and terrorists who have infiltrated and infested the Pakistani side of the LoC. Well, the patrol might be the proverbial head of the camel. Fact is, for the war on terror to continue, troops are this border. Al Qaeda is now happily settled in Pakistan and with coalition troops turning up the heat on the Afghan border, they will move to PoK and the J&K. US wouldn't want to make the same mistake they made in Afghanistan, viz. attacking the terrorists without first cutting off their escape (or relying on Pak troops to cut off the escape). This time US wants to be sure they are confined to Pakistan where they can be destroyed. Hence the need for troops on the LoC.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (12205)	6/9/2002 4:48:05 PM
From: JPR	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 12475

The US is morphing its pressure on pakistan on a daily basis Since the Al Qaeda and the Taliban are prevented from entering the Indian Kashmir, what is there fate? What will they do? How are the pakis going to find some work to keep them out of mischief? You can't keep a terrorist on ice all the time. Once it thaws over the next few months they are going to Indian Kashmir or fall into the hands of the allied forces or cause trouble to Musharaff and even worse they will cause trouble to America and the West. Once a terrorist, always a terrorist. America can't wait and sit this out. This is not a situation to sit out. The US and the allied troops have to aggressively pursue and capture them. This little respite India enjoys from their low activity will be short-lived, if something is not done in their disposition. The pakis and the west have to find a permanent solution. India would not have sent the spy plane without the tacit approval of the US. The US is parading the high officials from the state to the defense departments. This gives credibility to the idea that US is morphing its pressure from knuckle-rapping with his own baton to more serious threat of collusion with Indians in case of Indo-pak war. The Chinese and the rest were told that they should keep quiet. Musharaff has nowhere to go in this triangular relationship among India, the US and the AlQaeda, his own military and the hawks. The Chinese aren't too enthused in supporting the pakis at this moment, because they don't like the Talibans and the Al Qaeda either. It is possible that in case of paki's losing war -hope war won't happen- China might issue some kind of ultimatum to India, which might be countermanded by the US, Russia and the west. That should be the case since more countries in the ring means more trouble. Anyway, it appears that once things cool down, Mushraff's helm at the sinking ship of Pakistan will be endangered by the terrorists, since they have to act somewhere. It is not unthinkable that Musharaff will become the sacrificial lamb of the terrorists and Al Qaeda. Once that happens, all bets are off; it is a whole new game again; and the rehabilitated Prime Miniter-in-exile might come back. It might even prove to be a bonanza for India, the US, the West and Pakistan itself. Dawn.com Opinion page What can trigger war By Anwar Syed These militants believe that if Pakistan does not do their will, it is as deserving of punitive strikes as India. Pakistan is not worth keeping if they cannot control it. If Mr. Bhandara's interpretations are correct, and I think they are, General Musharraf has no real option other than that of disbanding and incapacitating these forces. That they make trouble for India is no compensation for the infinitely greater mischief they make in Pakistan. We will have to leave it to the Kashmiris themselves to wage the struggle for their self-determination as they deem fit.