SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (49520)6/7/2002 6:23:01 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Many people like being ignorant.
Democrats like being "ignorant"" in the opinion of Republicans
Republicans like being "ignorant" in the opinion of Democrats
Environmentalists like being "ignorant" in the opinion of businessmen
and businessmen like being "ignorant" in the opinion of environmentalists
and so on

People living more fully with basic needs like food and health care, does not translate to the world of ideas- where people can live fully with all sorts of ideas



To: Neocon who wrote (49520)6/7/2002 6:26:25 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
But it is too obvious that people are better off when they are healthy,
educated, have more than an economic sufficiency, and so forth,


Better off how?

Do you agree with Aristotle that the goal of life is to be happy?

Or you with Plato that the unexamined life is not worth living?

if the latter, education as we understand it is a good thing.

If the former, I'm not so sure. Are cultures that have no written language necessarily unhappier than those that have one?

Are bond traders in New York today happier than Aborigines were 2,000 living self-sufficient on their own land?

For most people, offer than the choice of reading Hamlet or watching the Simpsons, and they'll choose the Simpsons. Would they be happier if they chose Hamlet?

I would be VERY leery of assuming that the things that make me happy will make others happy.

Whatever enables a person to live more fully, rather than being ... ignorant of his options,

Awareness of our options can be a bad thing rather than a good thing, especially if those options look wonderful but aren't. Is it better to be aware that one has the option of using heroin, crack cocaine, or abstaining than it is not to have the option of choosing heroin or crack cocaine?



To: Neocon who wrote (49520)6/7/2002 6:30:07 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
have more than an economic sufficiency,

I missed this one the first time around.

This one gives me REAL problems.

Looking around me, many of the people with economic sufficiency but no more are happier than those with more money than they know what to do with.

People with money tend to think that because they are richer, they are better than poor people. Very damaging to them and to society.