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To: The Philosopher who wrote (49605)	6/8/2002 12:26:33 AM
From: E	Respond to of 82486

We differ sharply about how potentially disturbing and harmful to a developing child exposure to violent and other erotic material can be. I have no objection to children playing with toy guns, though I formulated that view before children really understood, as they probably do now from the violence on TV and in movies many of them are allowed to see, what guns do to people. I liked playing group games with toy guns when I was a little girl, and even in junior high school, and I know it was, to me, an exciting, dramatized form of tag. I sure wasn't thinking of pain and mutilation and death and grieving. Once we went out with our son J. to the beach house of a couple of friends and their little boy, Danny. In his bag of toys, our son took along a little toy gun. (The boys were maybe four years old.) The couple very much disapproved, and expressed this strongly, and we took the gun away from J. The next morning at breakfast, Danny picked up his toast and in quick nibbles, shaped it into a fat right angle, a perfect gun-shape, which he aimed around the table shouting BANG BANG BANG.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (49605)	6/8/2002 1:50:16 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Whoa. This really hadn't registered: Just a child doing something some parents might find acceptable and others might not. I certainly wouldn't impose my moral judgement on the child or parent. Do you mean you wouldn't morally judge parents who allowed their children access to internet porn of the type I've described and many others, including kiddie porn? The eroticization of pain? Fetishes of one sort or another? (There have been books written on these subjects and TV programs about them, and articles, too; I find it hard to imagine how you can't know the nature of the material children can be exposed to.) You wouldn't think that was a sicko, creepy, irresponsible and at best stupid parent? If I heard a parent was allowing his or her young children to browse those sites, I'd suspect the parent was getting some sort of sick gratification out of it. I'd make a moral judgment alright. Not of the child, of the adult.