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Strategies & Market Trends : Anthony @ Equity Investigations, Dear Anthony, -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PartyTime who wrote (77521)	6/8/2002 1:50:02 AM
From: Bear Down	Respond to of 122087

So, Peter, support your friend and wish him well. You know him and have the very best kind of vantage point. However, don't be so hard on those who've in the past been hurt by his actions. As much as Anthony now has feelings while languishing in jail, many of the folks who suffered from his shorting attacks also had feelings while langushing in the stocks he so vociferously, and perhaps if the trading allegations have merit, unfairly, campaigned against no folks suffered cause he shorted their stock or cause a "hoard" of shorter's found and communicated the same research. They suffered cause they bought a POS stock in a POS company. If it wasn't them it would have been the "greater fool" who would also be an innocent victim according to you. All houses of cards fall sooner or later. Shorts never took down a good company. If you can show me one I will glady stand corrected. It is always a matter of time. And the longer it takes the more "innocent victims" there will be. Sorry, but you are wrong there. Shorters or anyone exposing a POS company is performing a service to all investors.

To: PartyTime who wrote (77521)	6/8/2002 5:18:15 AM
From: lee kramer	Respond to of 122087

Hi Party Time: That was one fine post.

To: PartyTime who wrote (77521)	6/8/2002 12:51:17 PM
From: peter michaelson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 122087

Party Time: I appreciate your efforts to be fairminded, and you have raised an issue which is at the center of this debate. Suddenly, out of nowhere, with no warning, a short horde strikes like gangbusters with an organized reign of confusion and distortion, heaping insult, all manner of truth, credibility and care cast aside........However, don't be so hard on those who've in the past been hurt by his actions. As much as Anthony now has feelings while languishing in jail, many of the folks who suffered from his shorting attacks also had feelings while langushing in the stocks he so vociferously I contributed a lot of internet research on these stocks that Tony shorted on the private site and on SI. I am intimately familiar with many of them. I could prove in a court of law that many of these stock were fraudulently promoted in the most blatant and egregious fashion. Over and over, you can see the SEC litigating against stock fraud by longs, and almost never by shorts. The injury was done by the promoters, not by the short-sellers. The short-sellers often used the most crass street language and methods in exposing the truth to the long shareholders - methods I myself never used. However, bad language is not a crime. With rare exception, the short-sellers statements were factual. No long wants to hear he made a stupid investment mistake, so the message is not welcome, particularly when presented so brashly. Putting the truth out into the public sphere prevents promoters from selling even more worthless paper to innocent investors. Yes, the ones who already bought are hurt, but they would lose that money eventually anyway, or those to whom they sold their worthless paper would suffer anyway. PartyTime, I truly believe you are not fully cognizant of how rife stock fraud is out there - it is ceaseless. Every day I find another fraudulently promoted stock - i swear. I remember when the scope of this crime wave dawned on me a couple of years back. I was shocked, disbelieving - but it is there. Tony is an incredibly bad mannered guy, but I do think that on the whole he helped people way more than he hurt them. Best to you, Peter

To: PartyTime who wrote (77521)	6/8/2002 1:10:49 PM
From: mmmary	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 122087

partytime, what innocent investors? "Suddenly, out of nowhere, with no warning, a short horde strikes like gangbusters with an organized reign of confusion and distortion, heaping insult, all manner of truth, credibility and care cast aside. But at least in a hostage situation women, children and elderly usually get released. But not when you're innocently holding a stock this gang gets ahold of--no wonder there becomes so many angry people! Yes, some of 'em may have been pumpers; but I bet many weren't." If someone were truly innocent, they would be happy to have tony come along and tell them they are "innocently" invested in a stock scam or a loser company. They all have time to get out. They are warned by his report. When I post my honest DD, I get thank you letters from "innocent" investors. Heck, if I were in a bad deal, I'd want someone to tell me so I can get out. I don't believe any innocents were hurt. If there were innocents hurt, they were hurt by the scammy loser company and promoters, not tony for posting the truth. You've got things mixed up. It's like a scammer comes along and sells you a "real" gold nugget for $50 and he tells you it's really worth $100 but you're getting a special deal, shhhhhh. You know it sounds too good to be true and you don't check to see if it's real gold, you just greedily buy it up. Then tony comes along and checks out the gold nugget and it turns out it's not real gold and not as big as the scammer said. He tells you the scammer ripped you off and it's worth $1 which it is. Did tony just steal $99 from you, $49? He took nothing. He was honest with you. You now have the choice of selling that nuggest to someone for $40 right now or $1 as soon as everyone realizes it's worthless. It's your choice. You could also hold onto it and try to find a sucker to buy it from you in a few months for $100. Or you could short the "nugget" along with tony and make some money outing the scam. Investors have choices. Yes, sitting there screaming that tony's a liar, he should be sued, the nugget's worth $1,000, throw him in jail...is one of those choices. When you see "investors" posting that, you know it's just the promoters trying to keep their suckers in the scam.