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To: NOW who wrote (171318)6/9/2002 8:09:53 AM
From: orkrious  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
how about Barton Biggs latest missive calling for Dow 2000 and talking of gold and guns?

you sure it was barton biggs? it was just a week ago he said we were near a bottom.



To: NOW who wrote (171318)6/9/2002 6:20:28 PM
From: yard_man  Respond to of 436258
 
to be honest I haven't followed enough of the folks for long enough to know if they are any good as contrarian indicators. I simply think

1) There are good fundamental reasons to believe the indices are going considerably lower from here -- historic norms of dividends being the primary one. Second, the state of the economy and the lack of a foundation for a return to profitability -- recent boasted improvements are nothing but relflex from large writeoffs taken earlier and inventory correction.

2) Overindebtedness has two solutions: Inflation and or debt writeoffs. Solution will probably be a combo of both if government is lucky -- if not we sink into deep recession for years. neither of these outcomes supports higher stock prices. Lose-lose.

For the shorter term I'd rather look at the most apparent measures of investor sentiment -- what are folks doing with their money. Vols spike, but then turned down rapidly on Fri. Equity P/C remain quite low given we are near those sept lows. No real high negative tics.

This is enough for me intermediate term to stay short until I am proven wrong. DOW stocke will be creamed at some pt ... even with them changing the names to protect the innocent. <g> This month?? How should I know ... but I would expect this year.



To: NOW who wrote (171318)6/10/2002 1:26:43 AM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
<how about Barton Biggs latest missive calling for Dow 2000 and talking of gold and guns? >

I thought "Bags" just called for a huge rally???? That guy is a drunk.

DAK