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To: MSI who wrote (262252)	6/9/2002 1:05:16 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

MSI, Re: Kissing Saudis, supporting Israel, and dead Americans, all coincidental, no connection between the dots, of US involvement in the Middle East Death Dance to terrorism in America... I had a chin-drop moment a couple of nights ago, listening to Larry Kudlow on his vanity hour show, talking about how a U.S. expropriation of the total Iraqi oil production would be the best way for us to thumb our noses at the Saudi royals. The rhetoric is certainly getting cretinous on TV these days. Lou Dobbs fighting Islamists, Kudlow taking over a banana oil republic. These Republican mouthpieces aren't being exactly fair or diplomatic in their bombastic and unveiled calls for war.

To: MSI who wrote (262252)	6/9/2002 2:27:14 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

THE CONSPRIRACY THEORY HOUR PRESENTS: Let's Step Out Of The Box For A Moment, Shall We? A reply To The Anticonspiratorialists by Jon Phalen swans.com <Snip> Sharing my deep skepticism about 9-11 with others, I can't help but notice the way some people reach frantically for ways to make a conspiracy scenario as implausible as possible. The narrowest and most literal definition of the term 'conspiracy' is easily their favorite device. Bringing it to bear on this argument, they divert it directly into their favorite cul-de-sac: "too many people would have to know, and there's no way it could be kept quiet." Since this 'too many people' premise isn't logically inevitable, and since the hemorrhaging of the official story actually seems to be deepening their convictions, those convictions appear to be a product of denial: these unfortunates have blinded themselves to the possibility that America's entire civic culture, a thing unto which they have staked their lives and their hopes, might actually be rotten to the core; a seething mire of duplicity. Sad thing is, anyone old enough to remember Watergate shouldn't need reminding........ If there is foul play on the part of our government, it most likely originated among a tightlipped cadre of extremists in the CIA, or perhaps in some covert group we've never heard of, and these people may have acted on their own. If they were following orders, those orders just as likely came down from some corporate enclave as from the Executive Branch. <Continues online.....>