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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (32050)	6/10/2002 10:41:06 AM
From: Hoa Hao	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Until Israel decapitates this leadership and strikes back at the sponsoring countries, its efforts can indeed be classed as mostly defensive." Yup, yup ,yup. And this is what VN was all about. It will only take 5 nuclear weapons to take out Saudi Arabia, plus a few conventional ones. The beauty of it is that the oil facilities won't get hurt much. I wonder if those Saudi princes are feeling a bit more naked now that the US has pulled out. :-)

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (32050)	6/10/2002 12:31:43 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi Nadine Carroll; Re: ". Even if most Palestinians got thoroughly sick of the conflict, there is a core that acts on the orders of Iran and Iraq and Syria." Then I guess there's no reason for Israel to bother thinking about making peace with the Palestinians. Why should Israel worry? Heck, it will probably be months before the suicide bomber types get hold of antiaircraft missiles and shut the country down. -- Carl

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (32050)	6/10/2002 1:18:09 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Your statements imply that you see the Israeli/Pal conflict as purely a civil insurrection. This ignores the whole proxy war aspect of the conflict. Even if most Palestinians got thoroughly sick of the conflict, there is a core that acts on the orders of Iran and Iraq and Syria. This core effectly controls their decision-making now. Until Israel decapitates this leadership and strikes back at the sponsoring countries, its efforts can indeed be classed as mostly defensive. So we've managed to completely forget about the settlements issue, the destruction of Palestinian homes, the occupation issue. The Palestinians are now just agents of other countries. I gather that's now the view of the right wing. Not even the official view of the Bush administration is that unforgiving.