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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (262845)6/11/2002 12:34:13 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
I believe that the Christian Right is preaching the Christian way is the only way,

it is not intolerance that cries out this position, it is Jesus Himself.
Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

His saying on the cross :It is finished" was much more than just dying. It was the fulfillment of prophesy and the fulfillment of promise.

How can a Christian in good conscience tell another human being that everything and everyway is hunky dory? Can't do it. It would be against the very teachings of the Christ.

you would see that there is a difference between the crazies and the overwhelming majority of Muslims.

yex...the overwhelming majority of Muslims seem to be in agreement with all the repression that Muslims force on their people(especially women). and seem to think blowing themselves up and taking as many as they can with them to be an attribute.....seems the Christians here did not take kindly when the Murray building was blown up and they executed the perp.



To: Kevin Rose who wrote (262845)6/11/2002 8:12:56 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Kevin, if Islam is no different than any other religion, can you name another faith that regularly celebrates the random slaughter of civilians?

From Iran and Iraq, to Nigeria, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, theocratic muslim following regimes impose a brutal, medieval version of Koranic law.

Here is an article which highlights my point. ncubator.com

CHRISTIAN SOLIDARITY WORLDWIDE
February 20, 2002

Man on Death Row for Blasphemy in Pakistan Given Leave to Appeal

A man on death row in Pakistan since 1996 has been told his appeal will be heard at the Supreme Court in the next two or three months.

Ayub Masih, a Christian convicted of blasphemy under s.295C of the Pakistan Penal Code, was granted leave to appeal on the basis of legal irregularities on February 13 at a preliminary hearing.

For the first time in Pakistan's legal history, the Supreme Court is to determine whether a Christian should be executed for making a derogatory comment against the Islamic prophet Mohammad.

The appeal, to be reviewed by a panel of at least three Supreme Court justices, will be Masih's final judicial appeal. If the court upholds the previous court's decision he would be the first person to be executed under the country's blasphemy legislation.

Masih, now in his early thirties, has been in solitary confinement since October 14 1996. Last July, the Multan Bench of the Lahore High Court alarmed human rights groups and religious minorities by upholding the conviction and the mandatory death sentence.

The wording of the blasphemy law is notoriously vague. Anyone who 'by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly' defiles the Prophet Mohammad can be found guilty of blasphemy. There is no requirement to prove intent and it is not uncommon for allegations to be motivated by religious bigotry, personal prejudice or selfish gain.

According to reliable local sources, the accusation against Ayub Masih was fabricated in order to force fifteen Christian families in his village to drop a land dispute. The case appears to have been registered without proper investigation, based merely on an oral statement made by the complainant. No substantial evidence had been produced to prove his guilt at either his trial or his recent appeal. The guilty verdict is believed to be the result of immense pressure from Islamic fundamentalists.

Although no one has yet been executed under the law, at least five Christians known to Christian Solidarity Worldwide have died at the hands of extremists.

Ayub Masih's case highlights the need for revision of the blasphemy law and the strengthening of legal procedures to protect against its misuse. The mandatory death penalty accompanying the law is excessive and disproportionate to the crime. It is a matter of controversy even within Islamic circles.

Christian Solidarity Worldwide is working closely with UK MPs to call on Pakistan to introduce reforms to improve the status of religious minorities. An Early Day Motion (No. 349) featuring the plight of Ayub Masih and the injustice of the blasphemy legislation is receiving considerable support from MPs from all parties.

Mervyn Thomas, Chief Executive of Christian Solidarity Worldwide, said: "President Musharraf has demonstrated great courage in his recent attempts to combat Islamic fundamentalism and to reform the electoral system.

"However, true democracy can only be achieved when Pakistan respects, upholds and protects individuals' rights and freedoms, including freedom of religion. It is high time the government of Pakistan addressed the controversial blasphemy law and ended all discrimination based on religion.

"Pakistan is sensitive to international pressure, particularly pressure from the US and the European Union. We call on the international community to encourage Pakistan to pursue moderate Islam and to revise the blasphemy law. We also urge governments to send representatives to monitor Ayub Masih's appeal to ensure impartiality and a fair trial."