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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: one_less who wrote (50429)	6/11/2002 7:18:56 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Laz has just cause to present a defense and you have an obligation to support your allegations or come forth with some groveling and apologizing The question I asked was why observations (in general) are so often perceived as charges. Clearly, you perceived my observation about what I thought triggered the latest flare-up as an charge, one for which I should apologize to Laz. My question was why the perception of an allegation. Can you tell me why? I did not intend it as an allegation. I was simply explaining my take on what prompted the flare up. I did not call upon Laz to account for what he did. I did not say he had committed any kind of foul. I did not criticize him. I merely expressed an observation on what happened as a basis for some group analysis. When I express an observation about some thread phenomenon, I expect to hear comments like: 1) You're mistaken. You overlooked thus and such. It really happened thus. 2) Yes, that's what happened and this is what I think we can do to avoid that sort of thing. 3) Yes, that's what happened but I think it's a non-issue because... 4) You're focusing on the wrong thing. That doesn't matter. You should, instead, be looking at... 5) Quit beating a dead horse. 6) It's inevitable. Forget about it. 7) What are you smoking? 8) Etc. I don't expect anyone to defend himself or apologize. I just want to analyze the phenomenon. That's a very neutral activity unless people are very thin skinned, which Laz is not. He and I have a good relationship and we tease each other all the time. There's no reason that I know of for him to take it personally. There's no reason that I know of for you to think I should apologize. Apologize for what? Had I made an accusation that turned out to be false, an apology would be in order. But I didn't even make an accusation, false or otherwise. Back in the days when I worked for a living, one of the things I did was management studies. That's where an office isn't functioning well and someone like me goes in, figures out what's going on, and make recommendations. When I brief the management team with my findings, conclusions, and recommendations, they don't defend themselves. That's simply beside the point. Yes, I might say some things to them that are hard for them to hear but they accept them in the spirit in which they are given and I work with them to determine what changes to implement, if any. That's the context in which I make observations about thread activities and I'm asking why they are perceived as allegations. What about this venue makes observations seem like allegations?