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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (3953)	6/17/2002 2:19:32 PM
From: Mephisto	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15516

Now, Bush wants to assassinate Saddam. And Congress agrees. Gebhardt thinks it is a good idea, but, like a typical politician, he never explained why in his tv appearance last night. Moreover, it is probably illegal to kill a foreign leader. The part about its legality was beeped out on the tv news I watched last night. When we we declare war on Iraq and that is what we will do when the CIA and others kill Saddam, we will declare war on the entire Muslim nations, and there are more Muslims than there are Christians. It will be the beginning of the end of US wealth and dominance. Why has Bush targeted Saddam? Could it be for oil?. It may be in the Bush family's financial interest to do so. Don't forget Poppy Bush's connection to the Carlyle group and W's own very strong connection to the US oil industry. Taking Saddam out, may be a way for the US oil companies and those who support them to enrich themselves. There are many dictators in the world. W has invited a few to The White House, especially those from Central Asia. A few months back, the crazy Karimov, the dictator from Uzbekistan, visited The White House. He is a brutal man. "The deteriorating human-rights situation in Uzbedistan was high-lighted by Human Rights Watch's Acacia Shields, who gave chilling testimony to a U.S. congressional panel in September 2000. "Ubek police and security forces have arrested thousands of pious Muslims. These arrests are illegal and discriminatory..." "At the same time, torture is widely used to extract confessions. Generally people are brutally beaten or killed. But there are other forms of torture, including putting needles into people's nails, or putting plastic bags over people's heads to suffocate them." (from pages 126 and 127) (Excerpt from Jihad: The Rise of Militant Islam in Central Asia by Ahmed Rzhid , copyright 2002 by Yale University Press.) Why doesn't Bush attack the dictators in Central Asia? Could it be because they have agreed on a deal over oil? We must demand that Gebhardt and other Democrats tell us why they want to kill Saddam and start an international war? Gebhardt, other Congressional members must explain to the American people why they want to kill Saddam when the US sanctions the existence of other other dictators? It should be obvious that Bush will push the country further into debt. What will happen to our pensions? Where will social security and medicare be when we need them? Don't forget that W and his father and members of Congress will receive their pensions regardless of what happens to the rest of us. If we wage war against the rest of the world, we will harm only ourselves and continuous war may ultimately destroy us. Americans had better realize that when we assassinate leaders of other countries, we invite retaliation. Do you want your city wiped out by a dirty bomb? JMOP

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (3953)	6/17/2002 2:46:53 PM
From: Mephisto	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 15516

"Re: Norton in Colorado - Which river was damaged? " Message 15147135 The Death of a River Looms Over Choice for Interior Post By TIMOTHY EGAN From The New York Times January 7, 2001 "But it is not Ms. Norton's conduct as the state's chief legal officer that is being debated in connection with the Summitville mine. Rather, it is her philosophy. Ms. Norton, like Mr. Bush, has long advocated allowing the mining, timber and oil industries more leeway to police themselves. Their argument is that if businesses are given incentives, like immunity from fines and prosecution, for reporting and cleaning up their own pollution, most will do the right thing-A SO-CALLED SELF AUDIT." Message 15147122 For Norton, a Party Mission By William Booth Washington Post Staff Writer From The Washington Post Monday, January 8, 2001; Page A01 The following is an excerpt: "To understand why environmentalists in Washington are so worried about President-elect Bush's choice of Norton for interior secretary -- and why conservatives are applauding the nomination -- CREA is a good place to start. The organization was conceived by Norton, then the outgoing Colorado attorney general. Its purpose: to confront an "overriding problem," as its first mailings put it, that "over the last two decades, Democrats have created the impression that they are the defenders of the environment while Republicans are environmental destroyers. Our bad guy image hampers the election of Republican candidates and makes it difficult to promote common-sense policies." Norton, through CREA, vowed to do something about that. The June gathering was part of her plan. The gathering included a Who's Who of GOP powerhouses in Congress. The guest of honor was Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (Miss.). The keynote address was delivered by House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.). The sponsors for the gala that night included the National Coal Council, the Chemical Manufacturers Association, the National Mining Association, the Chlorine Chemical Council and the political consulting firm of Karl Rove, one of Bush's closest advisers. To environmental advocacy groups in Washington, CREA represents everything they fear about Norton. Their concern is that as the steward of America's public lands and the gamekeeper of the nation's wildlife, she is beholden to the extractive industries and will open up large tracts of land to mining, oil and gas drilling, and timber harvesting; that she will side with private property owners and businesses against the needs of endangered creatures. Indeed, the head of a rival GOP group, Martha Marks -- founder and president of Republicans for Environmental Protection -- accuses CREA of being nothing more than a front to gussy up the poor records of some Republican officeholders. "It's the classic green scam," Marks said, "green scam" meaning to slap the "green" label on someone or something that is actually working against conservation and environmental protections."