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Strategies & Market Trends : Employee Stock Options - NQSOs & ISOs -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: rkral who wrote (21)	6/12/2002 8:54:56 AM
From: hueyone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 786

CONCLUSIONS: The tax benefit does not tell the entire story. "Tax benefit from stock options" must be read as "tax benefit from non-qualified stock options". Incentive stock options (ISOs) may also be used to compensate employees Thanks Ron! Can you briefly explain the difference to me between NQSOs and ISOs? As you know, I am coming up to speed on many of these issues as we post. I don't claim to be coming at these issues with previous expertise. I still plan to think about the cash flow statements per Clark Hare's request and try your value flow diagram. By the way, the Siebel information we are discussing is actually on page 16 of the Proxy, but if you are scrolling down with the scroll bar, the PDF box reads page 17. Best, Huey P.S. This morning neither the Yahoo finance site or the Multex site is providing any information regarding stock option compensation. My links to compensation are quitting working one by one and are all reading zero.

To: rkral who wrote (21)	6/13/2002 11:00:22 AM
From: hueyone	Respond to of 786

CONCLUSIONS: The tax benefit does not tell the entire story. "Tax benefit from stock options" must be read as "tax benefit from non-qualified stock options". Incentive stock options (ISOs) may also be used to compensate employees. Your conclusion seems to meet the common sense standard of evaluation. Thanks for looking into that. So now I'm wondering .. can total employee compensation expense due to option exercise even be discovered from 10-K information alone? Probably not, but one of these days I will read Siebel's Proxy and 10K from beginning to end in an effort to determine whether there is a way to figure out total employee compensation expense due to option exercise. Best, Huey