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To: Dexter Lives On who wrote (120290)	6/13/2002 9:48:53 AM
From: samim anbarcioglu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

<<"open standard">> open to what? all GSM chip and handset manufacturers pay royalty to the cabal. CDMA is adopted by the etsi and iso as a 2g and 3g standards. and it is open to anybody who wants to adopt it, manufacture with it, design with it, a lot of companies tried: NOK, infineon, LSI come to mind. The fact that all essential patents belong to one company does not make it closed.

To: Dexter Lives On who wrote (120290)	6/13/2002 9:49:47 AM
From: qveauriche	Respond to of 152472

Not if you're Samsung it isn't open. Not if you're anyone other than the Euro Cozy Club.

To: Dexter Lives On who wrote (120290)	6/13/2002 10:23:37 AM
From: Uncle Frank	Respond to of 152472

I sure am glad you put a "g" in that message, dood <lol>.

To: Dexter Lives On who wrote (120290)	6/17/2002 10:25:14 AM
From: waitwatchwander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Microsoft banks on Windows to win mobile O/S race Reuters, 06.17.02, 7:12 AM ET SINGAPORE, June 17 (Reuters) - U.S. software giant Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people) on Monday took a swipe at rival mobile operating systems maker Symbian <PON.L>, saying familiarity with Windows will help it be the standard used in new high-performance wireless devices. "It's important (for developers and users) to have access to data they are already familiar with in the PC environment," Derek Brown, director of mobile devices group, told Reuters in an interview. "It's a big question mark whether Symbian can create a platform with that sort of standard application compatibility." The Redmond, Washington-based maker of the popular Windows operating system is in competition with Britain's Symbian, which is backed by the top four hand phone makers -- Nokia <NOK1V.HE>, Motorola (nyse: MOT - news - people), joint venture Sony-Ericsson <ERICb.ST><6758.T> and Siemens <SIEGn.DE>. To date few big cell phone makers have signed up with Microsoft, while South Korea's Samsung Electronics <05930.KS> is said to be considering a move away from Microsoft software. Microsoft has reacted by targeting smaller original device makers in Asia such as China's fast-growing handset maker TCL Mobile and High Tech Computer (HTC), and cutting vendors like Nokia out of the chain. Brown said the move to directly approach small manufacturers, usually the last in line to get sub-contracts from big vendors, would spur greater activity and competition among players. "It will enable a lot faster innovation and variation in both hardware and applications." Last month, the U.S. giant agreed to supply China's TCL with both its Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition and Smartphone 2002 as it tries to get a toehold into the world's biggest mobile phone market with over 140 million cell phone users. It has also struck alliances with Britain's Vodafone <VOD.L>, Germany's T-Mobile <DTEGn.DE>, Spain's Telefonica Movile <TEM.MC> and MMO2 <OOM.L> to use its mobile software. Pieter Knook, Microsoft's vice-president of network service providers, said mobile carriers are eager for quicker development of applications, which he said is key to raising revenues. "The economic factor is every voice carrier in the world has started to reach some point of saturation," Knook said. "The only element that is capable of growing is the data business and the real focus of the carriers now is to get hold of the killer applications that can get people back into the shops again and sign up for services." Copyright 2002, Reuters News Service forbes.com