To: marek_wojna who wrote (86959 ) 6/15/2002 9:09:25 PM From: E. Charters Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 117113 Chinese look as dangerous to me as the Islamics, although on the face of it they do not do terror per se. The Islamic governments take pains to look statesmanlike (with the exception of Iran ... it is a mutt and jeff game for suer), particularly if they need the US. As in Arabia, Pakistan and Indonesia. But are they in control, and is it hypocracy. you expect some hypocracy, but how deep does it run? I think that we are being pillared and posted by the Islamic governments. They are pretty dismissive of the States so called moral authority. They do not credit that at all. I would not look to get many votes from the man in the street in Arabia. On the other hand, they do realize that we are not monolithically anti-Arabic. I think they are beginning to realize that their oil dominance is a double edged sword. And that in the long run, 9-11 will not help them in any way. It's tough to say where it will all go. You cannot draw the vector into the future and see any kind of ideal world, where compromises will be made. That is because the perceived philosophical differences look to be insurmountable. I can see in a way where the man in the street in Arabia is no different than say the man in the street in Russia. This in itself is hopeful. But he shows no tendency at all, (and neither do the Chinese), to want to mediate the differences in his homeland. If you ask Chinese people if they want to improve their home government, they will get resentful. It is very sobering. They ain't here for the freedom and democracy folks. (But they ain't goin' back.. is it the money?) If you ask Arabic people about their governments, (never mind US foreign policy warts), they get very defensive. We have a long way to go. EC<:-}