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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (3524)6/17/2002 2:03:02 PM
From: MulhollandDrive  Respond to of 17639
 
i've been seeing the for rent sign wavers (probably laid off vp at some internet start up gone bust<g>)in marina del rey and a few other places...

in dana point, the condo my friend is renting is at $1600...to buy the same condo, the payment goes up...they are selling just under $400K.

on another topic....though related.

Message 17610472

Over the long history of the stock market, high P/E ratios have been transitory phenomena. Campbell and Shiller (2001) show that, sooner or later, the P/E ratio has tended to adjust back towards its long-run average. These adjustments have taken place mainly through changes in stock prices (P) rather than through changes in earnings (E).</b >While Campbell and Shiller do not expect a complete return of the P/E ratio to its long-run average, they predict poor returns from stocks in the coming years. The valuation model described here says something similar: we would not expect the P/E ratio to return to its long-run average because the bond yield and the volatility measures are now different from the past. Nevertheless, given the current earnings forecast, the model predicts a downward adjustment in stock prices.

Finally, investors should recognize that the extraordinary returns on stocks recorded over the last 20 years have been driven in large measure by a rising P/E ratio. A believer in efficient markets would not expect the P/E ratio to continue its upward trend because the current market price supposedly already reflects investor risk perceptions and expectations about the future trajectory of earnings. Absent further changes in the P/E ratio, stock prices can rise only as fast as earnings. Since 1926, earnings have grown by an average compound rate of 5.8%. If we add to this figure the current dividend yield on stocks of about 1.2%, we obtain a forecasted total return on stocks of 7% per year--only about one-half the average compound return since 1982.

Kevin J. Lansing
Senior Economist<<<