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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (82741)	6/17/2002 10:57:00 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 275872

Re: Check out these server benchmarks LOL!!! Nice catch on the benchmarks! Intel can run, but they can't hide from actual tests of real applications - someone was bound to let the facts leak, eventually. The 4-way Itanium 800mhz / 4meg cache has the exact same performance (20,670 lines per hour) as a 4-way 700mhz PIII / 2meg cache. What kind of moron would pay Itanium prices for one of these steaming piles of.... parts. A Fujitsu-Siemens running Solaris on Sun Sparc-64 hardware can process 301,670 lines per hour. My recollection is that Itanic Too is up to twice as fast, with 50% to 100% faster being a more complete characterization. Glug, Glug. The sound of Intel's efforts to make it to the the next (64-bit) era of computer technology. They must be sweating blood over at Intel - If Hammer is half as good as early reports indicate, especially considering how inexpensive Hammer's platform is, Intel is screwed. Looks great for Opteron. There certainly is a wide open opportunity in the market for a COTS high performance server line, but Itanic sure ain't it!

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (82741)	6/17/2002 11:33:22 PM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 275872

Hammer will have no problem beating the pants off of Itanium II (2, 4, and 8-way), unless HT turns out to be a complete dud. Quite a leap of faith for someone who has never seen Hammer benchmarks. Nonetheless, by the time Hammer arrives it will be competing with Madison, Nacona etc and Hammer will have no chance. EP

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (82741)	6/18/2002 12:31:31 AM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Pravin, good find on that benchmark, but here's a couple remarks. 1) don't forget that there is plenty of room for software performance improvements in SAP. That's what Itanium is all about. The Compaq score is a lower bound. 2) you shouldn't assume that a Xeon would scale 100% from 2-way to 4-way. Few, if any, applications behave like that. 3) there seems to be a wide range of scores between configs with similar processors. The Fujitsu 1.6GHz Xeon MP gets a score of 348, which is more than 10% faster than an IBM submission with the same type and number of processors. So chances are good that a well designed Itanium II system could get a 10% or greater edge over one with mediocre specifications. wbmw