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To: GraceZ who wrote (2777)	6/18/2002 12:00:09 PM
From: Tradelite	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Grace...agree about foreign workers. The ones I've observed on the crews working at my own property are hard workers and don't ask for much. At the same time, a story appeared in the weekend Wash Post about local teens, who are loafing this summer because they "don't need the money", much less the aggravation. Had my own grown son tell me yesterday that he's making a "lot of money now and saving", so he has plenty to spend. Yikes..... Only problem with some of these immigrants is lack of language skills, and when lack of English mixes with lack of common sense, it can be disastrous. My favorite painter had to let one newly-arrived guy go, because he just couldn't stop hammering some protruding nails too hard on a client's deck and kept splitting the wood, no matter how hard my painter kept trying to tell him to hammer a little more gently.

To: GraceZ who wrote (2777)	6/18/2002 12:24:40 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Respond to of 306849

<<The Mexicans learn fast, are eager to work, show up on time and are sober....something the locals here in Baltimore are sorely lacking.>> Agree with that...obviously there are good and bad in any large group. But there are many excellent Mexican craftsman in the construction trades. As in anything, the key is to get reliable referrals. We had Mexican tile installed by Mexicans and the result was totally satisfactory. Also had some roofing work (which had been botched previously) redone recently, again with good results. By and large, they put in a good effort (this is a bit stereotyped, but hey, it's a positive message!<G>)

To: GraceZ who wrote (2777)	6/18/2002 2:38:14 PM
From: David Jones	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Well I guess were talking about two different animals. Commercial work for me is heavy construction. You wont find many non union workers here in Calif working a multiple story buildings, bridges, refineries and the like. Which is my back ground. And as far as paying scale. You cover by law their health and welfare but not their retirement benefits. And for those guys hanging out in a union hall. Well at least when they're out of work know what kind of work their out of!