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To: Anthony Yeung (Hijacked) who wrote (1527)	6/18/2002 3:11:52 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 5130

Take your meds... you are red carded LOL

To: Anthony Yeung (Hijacked) who wrote (1527)	6/18/2002 3:18:04 PM
From: Anthony Yeung (Hijacked)	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5130

Italians: Ref cost us game Associated Press DAEJEON, South Korea -- Seething Italian players claimed Tuesday night they were knocked out of the World Cup by poor refereeing. An early penalty kick for South Korea, a late red card to forward Francesco Totti and a disallowed goal were among the decisions against Italy. In their previous two matches, they had four goals disallowed, with at least three appearing questionable on video replay. ''The World Cup started like this for us and kept on in the same direction,'' Italian coach Giovanni Trapattoni said. ''Inability and low attention in the end caused a disaster like this. ''We go out with our heads held high, but with a lot of recriminations. If we talk about who should have won today, I'd say it should be Italy.'' South Korea coach Guus Hiddink said there were mistakes, but not grave ones. Tuesday's match was officiated by Ecuadorean Byron Moreno, who also worked the United States' first-round win over Portugal. ''Overall, I think the referee did a normal job, with a few errors,'' Hiddink said. ''I don't think they came in decisive moments.'' Italy gave up a penalty kick in the fourth minute Tuesday. Goalie Gianluigi Buffon saved it, but the Italians' bad luck didn't end there. Numerous yellow cards followed, many for tussling that many referees would not have punished as strongly. Then, in the 111th minute, midfielder Damiano Tommasi put the ball in, but was called offside. ''I was perplexed by the call,'' Tomassi said. Perhaps for good reason. Television replays suggested Tommasi was onside when the ball was passed to him. Goalie Buffon was in despair. ''It was the last act of a run that we conducted well, suffering, giving all we had, sweating blood,'' he said. ''I think that again we lost because of certain episodes that I saw in a different way.'' In overtime, key playmaker Francesco Totti fell in the penalty area, and Moreno reached for the yellow, believing Totti dived. But the ref apparently forgot when making that decision that Totti received a yellow earlier and therefore had to be sent off. It was only on the prompting of the Korean players that he pulled out the red. ''We have to turn the page, think about our vacations, and forget about it all,'' Totti said. ''Unfortunately, not because of us, but because of the refs.'' In Italy's second first-round game, a 2-1 loss to Croatia, they had two goals controversially disallowed. The first came when striker Christian Vieri headed one in only to be ruled offside -- a call that appeared incorrect on replays. The second disallowed goal in that match came three minutes into injury time, with Italy trailing 2-1. Defender Marco Materazzi sent a long pass from beyond midfield. The ball bounced into attacker Filippo Inzaghi's path, and then hopped over his foot into the goal. The officials ruled Inzaghi pulled down a defender -- again a highly debatable call. In the team's last group match against Mexico, Inzaghi put another one in the net only to have it rejected as offside again, a ruling the team later denounced. Then, Vincenzo Montella scored, but was ruled offside. ''We have to take a close look at what happened in this World Cup,'' striker Alessandro Del Piero said. ''I'm not one who complains about the refs. I don't want to do it now. But looking at the whole match, it bears a close look.'' Italian soccer federation officials will be taking a closer look once they get back to Italy. ''It's upsetting to leave so early,'' said soccer federation president Franco Carraro. ''In Italy, after a break and in the right place, we'll examine this.'' However, he indicated that Italy would not try to appeal, an act that would not change the result. ''We're out of the World Cup and nothing's going to change that,'' he said.

To: Anthony Yeung (Hijacked) who wrote (1527)	6/18/2002 3:19:54 PM
From: lassic	Respond to of 5130

Was Totti fouled? a) Yes b) NO No, great tackle, defender got all ball Should Totti have been red flagged a) Yes b) NO It was harsh, but Italians have a reputation of diving. Totti got the yellow card for diving, since it was his second, he was red carded.

To: Anthony Yeung (Hijacked) who wrote (1527)	6/18/2002 3:24:27 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Respond to of 5130

Anthony, Totti did not receive a red card for the dive/foul, he received a YELLOW card. If you're going to get all whacky on us, at least get that fact straight! LOL. You know, if Vierri hadn't been such a donkey and missed the wide open net we wouldn't even be talking about this. -g-