To: The Philosopher who wrote (51446 ) 6/18/2002 6:38:10 PM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 School is mandatory. It is a contract (remember that word). A child is a minor and the contact is all on the side of the professional being paid to teach the child. Whether or not the professional makes reasonable efforts to ensure that the child (who has yet to learn) learns...is what must be considered when determining whether or not the professional is to be paid for job done. Listen, if you are a teacher, and if I pay you in a private school to teach my untutored child, you had damn well better get past his ignorance. "It's the restaurant's job to put wholesome food in front of the child, not to force it down his mouth. " Irrelevant. There is food for the body, food for the heart, and food for the mind. Teachers are paid to feed children and to try their best to see that they are nourished. Society mandates this. It is only optional in special cases. We are not mixing up roles here. The parents are not responsible for the education their children receive at school. The needs of dependent and relatively helpless children have not changed. It is simply that for 1/3 of a child's life...the teacher is the caretaker or custodial parent. The child remains a child whether she is sleeping at home in bed, or whether she is being prepared in school (mornings and afternoons, but not necessarily evenings) for life as an adult. The teacher is being paid to feed that child; and there are guidance teachers available to augment the approach when the child is having difficulty eating... You have stated that a truculent child should be allowed to chart his own course. That is simply nonsensical. He should be encouraged and motivated--and assisted to acquire the skills necessary to a productive and happy adulthood. The teacher is not being paid merely to supply the texts and to watch. The teacher is not a babysitter. The teacher is an expert and a professional motivator. The teacher helps children to actualize and to realize their potential, and to choose to learn and to grow. The teacher (like a parent) does not say..."do your own thing." The teacher says, "I loved the way you drew that flower. Could you do me a favour..." You believe that if a child doesn't want to learn (whatever the Hell that means), he should be abandoned to his abysmal ignorance. I guess we must just disagree on that.