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To: LindyBill who wrote (32648)	6/19/2002 11:24:48 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We are talking about changing our medical system to a Socialist system and I am telling you why it will be a disaster. Ah, well, now you are going to dig down into details and that conversation will take us off topic for the thread. Let me go back to a one liner level. You seem to think there are two options: a classic 19th century liberal market approach to health in which folk can only buy the health they can afford; and what you are calling a "socialist" approach in which healthcare is "free" and doctors are controlled by the state. Those are not the only options out there and because that's so that's why I keep saying you are changing the topic. American public education offers a different model. One could think about the parallels (which I don't plan to do right here); the Clinton plan offered one that ran through private enterprise (I didn't particularly like it); no doubt there are tons of others. I'm simply focusing on (a) we could do it better given our statistics suggest how badly we do it compared to other rich countries; and (b) one need only spend a bit time in emergency rooms in poverty stricken areas to be driven to think of ways to do it. But, as you say on occasion, it's obvious we have to agree to disagree. Some of the times in which we reach this point it's because one or both of us don't care too deeply about the issue; but other times, and this is certainly one, we both care deeply but simply have to agree we are not going to get anywhere with one another.