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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (32697)	6/19/2002 7:20:09 PM
From: epsteinbd	Respond to of 281500

The Arab rulers hate him, but they can't accept the Israelis showing that they can dismiss him, and I feel they are not really interested in a final peace. The roots of French problem , one that I tried to analyse over many many years unfolds as this : (outside the exports for Arabland and oil) The French like to believe that they are "Avanguard" philosophically and morally, cf: Declaration Universelle des Droits de l'Homme, literature with two t please, etc. The Israelis "were sure of themselves, prowd and dominating", said de Gaulle. After 67 they paraded : "not only are we the best soldiers ever, but look, philosophers too, and humanists btw, cause that's the mold Zionism is made of." The French Elite had no choice left. They were barely out of Algeria, and the hit the French took on their army behavior there, splashed the whole nation. And thus the French lamented : (psaume I) "And in 1967,those poor Jews whose ass we saved by a million in Algeria MorTun, cause the Arabs really wanted to butcher them all no problem. And here come Cohens fucken parading in their virginal dovish dress, a leaf of olive in one hand, a bible in the other, and a world class victory in the pocket an idiot hat above the smile. "Fuck, we hate them Israelis. Look what they have done to us!" And then de Gaulle, saying, before the war : "he who will start the hostilities will not have France's support." (in France a blocade is not an act of war.) It is true that it been said in Israel, that after the 67 wars, some Israelis generals refused to talk if there was no mike running. But this Israeli arrogance (that was) is almost a cassus belli. For France that is.