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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (265748)6/20/2002 9:28:17 PM
From: gao seng  Respond to of 769670
 
Go pick nits elsewhere. The enemy soldier who is now a prisoner of war, is not an American citizen, and has no right to a lawyer, even if he was. Which was the thrust of my response.

If you feel like you deserve a gold star though, for pointing out that even POW's have rights, go ahead. Just one though, ok?



To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (265748)6/20/2002 9:43:53 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Then - "FOUR DEAD IN OHIO" and now - "TYBOB" - TURN YOUR BACK ON BUSH movement gathers momentum....

New website:

turnyourbackonbush.com

America is turning its back on tyranny!

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From MWO:

Columbus Dispatch Reports On Mass Disgust Over OSU Protest Threats)

Ohio State University's high-profile commencement last week continues to grab national attention. But not the kind the university wants.

Held in Ohio Stadium with President Bush as speaker, the event has become a rallying cry for free-speech protection.

Ohio State has received more than 1,000 e-mails criticizing its handling of graduation -- mostly complaints that officials tried to silence protesters and took a blatantly pro-Bush stance. ...

Ohio State wanted to ensure that the event stayed focused on the graduation, said Lee Tashjian, vice president for communication. "We, as a university, certainly have no problems with dissent. But what we meant is peaceful, nonviolent dissent.''

The American Civil Liberties Union said OSU was within its rights to set limits, but the warning probably had a chilling effect.

"It's that open-ended structure of the threat, the standardlessness, that makes it pernicious. You don't know where the line is so you censor yourself,'' said Raymone Vasvari, legal director of ACLU's Ohio office, based in Cleveland. ...

Yoshie Furuhashi, an OSU graduate student who opposes U.S. foreign policy, among other things, and protested at commencement, said Hollingsworth's comments worked. "There would have been more people protesting if it hadn't been for that remark,'' she said.

A protest outside the stadium drew about 30 people who complained about Bush's politics and policy in Afghanistan.

By OSU's count, two students and six visitors stood up in the stadium and turned their backs to Bush while he spoke.

"They were politely approached (and told) not to obstruct the view of others, and they complied,'' said OSU spokeswoman Amy Murray. The protesters moved into aisles. ...

Murray leaves out the rest of the story.

Tashjian said many of the e-mails, which ranged from effrontery to eloquence, were copied to various OSU officials, so he doesn't know how many people actually wrote.

Credit to Tashjian for not resorting to the tired and transparent old trick highlighted many times here at MWO, of quoting one or two of the letters containing the worst expressions of "effrontery" in an effort to characterize the bulk and discredit all letter writers. But he did add:

"We have zero that came from people at the ceremony,'' he said.

We're not sure how he knew none of the letters came from people at the ceremony. Still, we wonder, what difference would it make?

Congratulations to all MWO readers who wrote OSU officials for making a difference.

mediawhoresonline.com



To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (265748)6/20/2002 11:16:18 PM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 769670
 
Citizens of the US have all the rights granted by the Constitution....and since W is backing AWAY from this Padilla case brought forth by ASHCRAP....it's pretty freeking scary what rights are being thrown out the window by the breast covering justice department.
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