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To: John Carragher who wrote (3435)6/22/2002 9:52:38 AM
From: John Carragher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3770
 
John Neff

arron's: In January you had no trouble finding lots of good companies
at inexpensive prices. Is that still true?

Neff: Yes. One is the homebuilder D.R. Horton. Another is Washington
Mutual. A third is a switch for me, but at a price I'll tackle almost anything. It's
Tyco.

Q: At what price did you tackle Tyco? Or did Tyco tackle you?
A: My cost is $20.80, which isn't great. [The stock now trades for about
$15.] About 80% of Tyco's sales and earnings come from three good areas
-- health care, technology and safety and security. I know from yesteryear the
operating companies that Tyco bought. They bought everything in sight.

Q: No doubt, from you.
A: Right, and they paid through the nose. The media is beating them up for
buying CIT Financial for $10 billion and trying to sell it for $5 billion. But the
stock they paid for it is now worth $3 billion. The new-issues market will
warm up and Tyco will be able to take CIT public again. If not, they will sell it
to somebody. It is a decent leveraged finance company, with collateral for
almost all its loans.

Once you remove CIT, Tyco becomes an average industrial company,
two-thirds equity and one-third debt. Companies in Tyco's lines of business
usually sell for 20 times earnings. I've got the company earning $2.60 a share
this year, and it generates about $2.5 billion in free cash flow. This is hardly a
basket case. Next year it should earn $3 a share. Maybe it will sell for 10-12
times earnings, which would mean a price of $30-$36. That's pretty good
alongside my $20.80, much less the current price.

Q: Alas, the market doesn't
share your upbeat view,
especially since the
indictment of Tyco's former
CEO, L. Dennis Kozlowski.
A: If he has done something
wrong, why, they should get rid
of him. But these things
become real political footballs,
and they just slay the stock.
Then you raise a whole new
constituency of shareholders.



To: John Carragher who wrote (3435)6/23/2002 8:42:42 PM
From: Tatnic  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3770
 
Biggs takes his so-called roll of a contrarian to extremes. He obviously hasn't done much research or put much thought into this. He may be right about a rally, but nothing of that magnitude. At best, we get a weekly rally that gives everyone a chance to reload their shorts.