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To: E who wrote (15257)	6/22/2002 11:46:46 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 21057

The branch of my family that has been longest in America is that of my paternal grandmother, whose maiden name was Wilbur. It was long known in the family that the Wilburs were long ago granted, by the grace of His Britannic Majesty, all the land between Saratoga Lake and the Hudson river, a fair bit, and also that they repaid this courtesy by revolting en masse when that became the fashion: to this day a musket carried by Joeb Wilbur in the battle of Saratoga is on display in a museum there. Some time ago one of the ancestors returned to England to uncover the circumstances surrounding the land grant, apparently hoping to discover that it was related to some distinguished act. What he discovered was that the Duke of Bedford had a butler, and the butler had a daughter, and the Duke had the daughter, and the daughter had a baby, and the Duchess had a fit, and the Duke found it expedient for the butler and his family to go to America. He arranged for the grant, and off went the problem. So I guess if you follow it back far enough we're all a bunch of bastards. Such is the nature of family trees....

To: E who wrote (15257)	6/23/2002 1:30:39 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 21057

One of the fathers definitely knew in those cases (the actual father was his best friend, who was a very different physical type from him, and the boy looked just like his best friend) but loved the boy and treated him exactly as though he were his own son. This was after he had strangled his best friend, tight? :-) Well, in N's case, the reality turned out to be much more interesting, if less illustrious, than the myth. In fact, I'll bet we all have 'interesting' family background stuff that has been lost in the mists of time because it was just a bit too interesting to tell the children. Ah, but we are not children. Go ahead. :-)