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To: TigerPaw who wrote (15282)	6/23/2002 4:37:09 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 21057

Keeping someone locked away for a dozen years while telling them over and over they are going to be killed is rather tramatising. Yup. About .01% of what they did to their victims. Gee, it's not nice to keep them locked up in cages, either. Particularly if they know they never, ever will have freedom again. So what's your solution to this horrible dilemna? I find particularly bewildering the cases where a prisoner is driven to attempt suicide only to be forced into a hospital until they are healthy enough to be killed at the time and choosing of their captors. It is really a sick process. Fine. To satisfy your objection, we just won't provide them with any medical care. Good enough? <One of the great sufferings of death row is the day to day brutality. Every detail of these men's lives says to them: "You don't deserve to live." -United States Conference of Catholic Bishops > Maybe the bishops got it right.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (15282)	6/24/2002 2:07:56 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 21057

"It is really a sick process. Yes it is and I don't support the process or the current alternatives. I would like to see major changes that are constructive and resolute.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (15282)	6/24/2002 9:34:39 AM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

. I find particularly bewildering the cases where a prisoner is driven to attempt suicide only to be forced into a hospital until they are healthy enough to be killed at the time and choosing of their captors. It is really a sick process. It seems sick at first glance. And in a way, it is 'sick,' or crazy. But not really. Because they're being formally executed, not having their medical needs neglected. It's a ceremony, of sorts, and takes place on a certain date. It says good things about us, ironical and even bizarre though it is, that until that date, we fulfill our responsibilities for the medical care of the prisoner. You can't really have a clause in any law that says, "Prisoner will be die on September 20 unless he or she dies from an unattended self-inflicted injury first." The law is odd. Ironies like that make it seem at the same time insane and noble. Civilization itself can seem very odd, at times, because of course we're animals.