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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (83344)	6/23/2002 7:32:17 PM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 275872

<font color=blue>New Steppings Just got this via email Sent from the Internet (Details) Milo, I noticed that the Tbreds shown at Akiba (link below) are a different stepping and date code than the ones everyone reviewed. The reviewed chips were all stepping AIR'C'A and date codes around 0214 to 0216 (suffix VPMW). The chips at Akiba are AIR'G'A and date code 0224 (suffix BPAW). So, they are a different stepping and at least 8 weeks later. Maybe they will have worked out some of the kinks now. By the way, I wonder if anyone on the thread knows the meaning of the suffixes (e.g. VPMW and BPAW)? Paul Flynn SI Lurker watch.impress.co.jp Milo

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (83344)	6/23/2002 10:38:54 PM
From: hmaly	Respond to of 275872

Jim Re...Let me also answer Hmaly about Mhz becoming less and less the standard for rating chip speed, going forward. At least tha's his hypothesis. He may be right but the only company that effectively do this is Intel. And why would they want to?< Right now Intel wouldn't. However if Hammer doesn't sell as well as it should, (people still buy an mhz even though Hammer has a higher performance metric.)it could easily be conceivable that AMD, Via, or someone else would come out with a cpu, based just on mhz, not performance, and Intel would have to either respond in kind or discredit using mhz as a performance metric. In any case, it appears the modern cpu's will have several clocks, so who is to say what the true clock is. Big iron stopped using clock speed as a viable metric long ago. Desktop could easily follow suite.