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To: Lorne Larson who wrote (3538)	6/23/2002 10:43:28 PM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11633

Here's the cold hard numbers PWI - 8.8% (The one Peter said to hold. Great advice Peter) Explain to me again why I should have stayed in PWI and not switched to AVN. Like I said, with every post you make more of an ass of yourself. --------- As before these numbers you use mean nothing. Because you still insist on saying that all I said was to HOLD. When the fact of the matter is that I said to accumulate at the lows. So that 8.8% you quote above is another of your lies. Accumulating as I do and as I say makes the return much higher. And add in the costs of switching and trying to decide which other to switch to. Makes the whole effort a waste of time and effort. Especially for joe average trust investor. Now I gave 3 real data examples for you 2 of those showed losses from selling at the loss in the first place. PWI went from over $7 down to under $6. Something you conveniently left out in your meaningless example of this post. Then taking that real loss and buying into the other trusts. You can't dispute those so you just ignore them. Well you cannot ignore them. The loss on the first was real and is documented with the real world trading data. And that loss takes away from any of the gains in the switching to the other trust. PURE AND SIMPLE. So you were wrong and are still wrong ----------------- -------L sells PWI at that 15% loss. He has $5950 left from his original $7000. He buys NAE which at the time of the switch, mid dec, is $9 which gives him 661 units. NAE is now $9.85. He has $6512 6512-7000 is -$488 or -7.0% from Message 17640184 and earlier

To: Lorne Larson who wrote (3538)	6/23/2002 11:55:37 PM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn	Respond to of 11633

AVN - 52.2% (The one that I switched into which started this whole debate) ------- more of your trademark lies. Changing your story to fit your needs Message 16816422 """" Also dumped the last of my PWI yesterday and today. Had a huge position in May and dumped about 1/2 then; should have got rid of it all. Moved some money into AY, and will probably look at some more PVE.""""""""------- -------http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=16945533 """As indicated I sold PWI and bought PVE and AY.""""" AE - 51.5% UET - 46.2% PVE - 32.1% VKR - 20.8% ERF - 14.6% PGF - 14.5% NAE - 11.5% AY - 9% PWI - 8.8% (The one Peter said to hold. Great advice Peter) SHN - 8% AET - 5.2% NCF - 3.5 % (Another of your darlings)

To: Lorne Larson who wrote (3538)	6/24/2002 12:46:03 AM
From: Peter W. Panchyshyn	Respond to of 11633

% INCREASE DEC 17/01 TO JUNE 21/02 (RANKED) AVN - 52.2% (The one that I switched into which started this whole debate) ---- from previous past post of yours we know this is a lie ------ AE - 51.5% UET - 46.2% PVE - 32.1% -------- So this as my referenced post of yours shows is the one you bought into. Taking away 15% because of loss on PWI leaves you with +17.1% ------------ VKR - 20.8% ERF - 14.6% PGF - 14.5% NAE - 11.5% AY - 9% --------- This is the other one you bought from the proceeds from that loss on PWI. Taking away 15% because of the loss on PWI leaves you with -6%. So far its +17.1 - 6 or 11.1% ------------ PWI - 8.8% (The one Peter said to hold. Great advice Peter) ---------- Suddenly your gain has shrunk substantially. Taking into account that P in my previous example, with his accumulating at the lows for PWI has a total return of +14.5%. That beats your 11% easily enough. -------- SHN - 8% AET - 5.2% NCF - 3.5 % (Another of your darlings) Explain to me again why I should have stayed in PWI and not switched to AVN. -------- Again the numbers you provide show beyond doubt that staying and accumulating PWI would have been the more appropriate. No extra costs no extra effort. In short no doing the wrong thing at the wrong time for the wrong reasons. ------------- Like I said, with every post you make more of an ass of yourself. ------- Its just way to easy to show you up. With the facts. Peice of advice for you, stop the lies, the misinformation, the name calling and insults--------