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To: Loki who wrote (2001)	6/24/2002 2:22:34 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5130

Hi Loki, Nothing personal against the Germans, I just like teams to attack<g> Coaching has really improved but I still see coaches who have no freaking idea about the sport...less and less as time goes by. >If the parents can control their insatiable desire to win at all costs and stop putting so much pressure on these young players Oh, you are so right about that! The kids behave very well for the most part...their behavior of the parents seems to be getting worse and worse each year! Not sure why, but it is really a very sad fact and the ones who get hurt are the kids who just want to play and have fun...There is always an idiot parent cheering them on in the sidelines just like they are playing american football....Yikes. You took your kids to Muller's camp, wow, what a thrill! Take care, George

To: Loki who wrote (2001)	6/24/2002 9:54:57 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Respond to of 5130

Congratulations on your coaches license... somehow I have a feeling that you have a lot more knowledge soccer-wise than many of the existing coaches with A B & C licenses. Where I think you will get the benefit of the programs is to learn how to teach... something I am definitively NOT good at. Besides, I do not have the inclination or patience. Needless to say, you must be proud of your boys; the quality of training and coaching they are receiving at this age will have an effect not only as players but also in all aspects of life, as sport is an excellent vehicle to guide young boys and girls towards a fulfilling life. Congratulations! Although, there still are many overly competitive American youth coaches who place winning at a higher priority than development, I have been astonished to see so many quality youth coaches and structured programs that will surely benefit the soccer development in the USA. I think that a balance giving due importance to winning without making it... "at all costs" (particularly at the expense of acts of obnoxious behavior If the parents can control their insatiable desire to win at all costs and stop putting so much pressure on these young players and if soccer overcomes the hurdle of the other major sports, there is a real bright future for the sport in the USA. At a distance... I have seen and heard a lot about that... Personally, I cannot even begin to understand how is it possible for these parents to act like jackasses... Besides, I understand from people in the field of psychology that such behavior in most instances, actually can drive the kids away from the sport (or activity in question)... and of course, attempting to "reason with jackasses is a lost cause... Perhaps if in these youth program they could give some room for some Brazilian inspiration and improvisation without falling in the excessive "mechanical orange" -gg type of football... It takes a little away of the beauty of the sport. Perhaps a combination of Brazilian flair, European structure and American emphasis on fitness could be the new style of soccer to play... No doubt the US with the resources at hand and the population becoming more addicted to the sport they will develop the necessary strength and game to become world champions in the not too distant future I am sure your children are receiving the benefit of a dual culture education (and possibly more, given their travel) all that topped by soccer coaching by the top dogs in Germany... I am sure they are thrilled. _______________ From the other post to George: I've heard parents (from the other team) call to "take out" my kids My oldest boy spent two months in a wheel chair (two broken ankles) fouled from behind, after the whistle had blown for the initial foul. This was in October 2000. On the extreme cases… I think it is beyond comprehension for some parents to advice a son to “take-out” someone like that… total disregard for the sport, not to mention other things, personally I would confront the SOB and the team’s coach for making such suggestion, and ask their son to be disqualified… I mean didn’t a guy killed someone else over some stupid damned hockey game? arghhhh The reasons for this behavior probably comes from three reasons... (I am NOT justifying it, simply calling it as I see this) 1. Utter ignorance about soccer. (Yes, it is physical and a contact sport, but you do NOT go for the man EVER, you play for the ball and even charge the opponent, but never go and kick the opponent on purpose) 2. [the parents] Being accustomed to play (or worse, watch) and have the mentality of American Football and Hockey, where "tackling and checking, you are obviously going for the man, forget the damned ball (or puck)... (Then after the injury they "innocently" say.... ooopsss I forgot... in soccer they do not wear any protective gear) 3. Plain absolute frustration and as you mention below... re-living their [possibly] frustrated sports career... Thinking that by pushing so... they are setting and example without even the basic question... "Do you really want to do this, and if so, how far are you willing to take it to”? [kids, in many instances may not be as hot-to-go-for-the-sport]... It is unfortunate that parents try to relive their lives through their kids with such misplaced zeal. A lot of kids are being turned off by this and turning to other activities Precisely....