To: Dan B. who wrote (1356 ) 7/7/2002 9:34:24 PM From: craig crawford Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1643 >> Ahem...VBG. It was you who began that argument, taking exception to my words. Now, having apparantly realized that my statements on it were correct, and while offering no counter argument, you find no point in discussing it. << i find no point in discussing the history of free trade with someone who obviously has not spent much time studying it and acts like he knows the history while making it up as he goes along. on another thread a few months back you even admitted as much. now you try to tell me i don't know when free trade began in britain or america. i'm not going to waste my time arguing every little detail of history with you. "I've assumed, without the Great Britian matter being within my realm of particular knowledge, that you've reported accurately"Message 17200274 >> Okay, fine. Free trade indeed remains, in modern American terms, a conservative principle, and one which favors consumers, individuals in general, and the hence the masses in general, the world over. << one of these days you will come to learn that individualism is a liberal or libertarian principle, not a conservative one. until then i'm ready to just move on. >> Free Trade demands responsibility << and you fool libertarians just can't figure out that our society today is not responsible. just look at enron, global crossing, imclone, tyco, martha stewart, worldcom, xerox, etc. of course they are only the tip of the iceberg. just look what your laissez-faire, free trade, government withdrawal from the economy has gotten us. >> Wherever control upon Free Trade is employed, Free Trade in not in existence << it's a shame that you radical libertarians are too ignorant to realize that so-called free trade leads to more control, not less!