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To: Charles Gryba who wrote (167012)	6/25/2002 12:15:19 PM
From: GVTucker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Charles, RE: Illegal Immigrants put a strain on the country's resources without contributing anything. While it is a debatable point whether or not illegal immigrants are a net positive to our country or not, the above statement is false. I have seen a large number of illegal immigrants contribute significantly to our economy. In fact, many contribute into our Social Security system without much hope of ever receiving any benefits. (Well, most of us legal folks might not receive benefits, either, but that's another discussion.) It's my opinion that illegal immigrants contribute far more to our economy than they cost. That's a debatable opinion, I realize. But to say that illegal immigrants contribute nothing is just plain wrong.

To: Charles Gryba who wrote (167012)	6/25/2002 12:43:06 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Legal immigration is needed but illegal one is not. Illegal Immigrants put a strain on the country's resources without contributing anything. Most of them get work in the "shadow" economy where everything is done in cash so the government sees not tax revenue from it. That cash in turn may be funneled out of the country. The only people who benefit from illegal immigration are their employers who receive cheap labor without providing all the benefits they would otherwise have to provide to a citizen or legal immigrant. B.S. - I live in an area fairly close to the Border, so I see quite a bit of "immigration". From what I see, most of the jobs that "immigrants" take, are ones that no "American" wants. You think "Americans" are going to be out there picking crops, digging ditches, busting rocks, cutting grass, and trimming trees, in the 110F Heat that we get around here? You'd have to pay Big Bucks for a Union Person to do that (If You Could Get One To Do It). Are you willing to pay higher food prices to cover the additional labor costs?? Have you ever even seen an American out there picking crops?? Me Neither. "Immigrants" do most of the Dirty Jobs, that Americans don't want. If you want to know who isn't "contributing anything", look at any freeway exit around here. It's Far easier for an Out Of Work American, to sit by the Freeway Exit, with a sign saying "Veteran Out Of Work, Please Help", then to bust their butt at Hard Work. At LEAST "immigrants" give back some dirty work, for their money. Money collected, which probably amounts to Far Less, then the "American Begger". Semi