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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (266905)	6/25/2002 7:12:46 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 769670

Each INDIVIDUAL..... >>THE BUSH STRATEGY - TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION Hi Buddy, Re: Let's hear it for a Theocratic Plutocracy... wave of the future. I'm afraid it does look that bleak. Here's something a thoughtful fellow like you might appreciate: Message 17651566 To:Enigma who wrote (6316) From: Raymond Duray Tuesday, Jun 25, 2002 5:57 PM Respond to of 6317>> .....is a KING! We are called by our one Lord God in heaven to be FREE!! FREE to help, serve and love others the way we would want to be helped, served and loved. Anything more complex than this is a LIE. And ALL LIES are FRAUDS. And all frauds are completely and totally irrelevant. Mankind's claim, blame, shame Ponzi Scheme jig is up!! Mankind's world is imploding bit by bit. There will be massive inflation and a massive cratering of all financial markets. For once a PONZI scheme is exposed there's NOTHING, NOTHING that will cover it up to continue it's illogical insanity. Receiving and sharing the truth of our Lord's divine dominion in The Kingdom of Heaven is all that's left for mankind to face. Soon, very, very soon we will be all called - individually and collectively - to proclaim where are rights and freedoms come from: man or God. This is the fork in the road that's always been there every second of every day. But the time for opinions and discussions, commissions and meetings is over. There is only time for FREEDOM. And true freedom is all about receiving and sharing the energy, light and love of our Father in heaven's love for us with others with NO STRINGS ATTACHED OR CLAIMED. Mankind's claim, blame and shame Black Hole matrix is being called into an account by the FREE and unconditional TRUTH of God which holds all true power. Get out of the major cities. Buy land, gold and silver and plant some vegatables. And learn how to sing, dance and smile once again. For nothing material matters. And forget about this education and retirement planning madness. The 1260 days of Revelations 11 started on April 24th of this year. Nibiru - PLANET X - will be making it's 3657 year cycle "grand crossing" between earth and the sun next May 15th which will cause massive climate and earth crust changes. The Greek letter "X" stands for Christos which is where the word "Christ" comes from. This is all part of our Father in heavens divine providence to save mankind from total destruction. We are all called to STOP and connect with the truth behind our spiritual divine nature. STOP the madness!! Forgive and Love one another!! Peace and God Bless!! 119293!!

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (266905)	6/25/2002 8:29:27 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Some bold and troubling thoughts in that post. I'll add my 2 cents: Re: "corrupt favored son" A.>>> Born to the spoon, as the saying goes. Re. the original quote: "IMO we have crass ineptitude being shown in Washington - in foreign and fiscal policy... and your response: "Here I disagree with you. It certainly is crass, calculated, conniving and craven. But it is not inept. The fiscal policy is a reversion to the financial enslavement of the middle and lower classes that was a hallmark of the Reagan/Bush era." A.>>> I do find it difficult to believe that anyone seriously expects to both lower debt and raise productivity and national income with the current set of policy prescriptions.... Of course, by comparison to some of the Loony Tunes stuff that's come out of the House of Representatives (like their 2001 tax plan) the President's programs have seemed vaguely more reasonable (especially if you include, granting the benefit of the doubt, some of the nebulously-discussed plans for total tax code over-haul that have been advanced for 'next year' by O'Neil and some of the other 'loose cannon' members of the Bush II admin.) Re: "The rapid rise of the national debt isn't the result of ineptitude. It is the result of a cynical plan to transfer the wealth of the taxpayer to the banking elite." A.>>> Well, if the 'goal' is to increase income disparities, widen the gap between the wealthiest 2% and the rest of us for example... then merely a continuation of current trends might suffice because we are already back to the previous highs of income disparity that we achieved as a society in the 1920s. (See "American Plutocracy" by the former Nixon admin. staffer for the analysis.) A.>>> If new policy pushes us beyond the 1920s income disparity record, then we will be sailing into uncharted waters. (Or perhaps records set by much earlier civilizations....) Re: "As to foreign policy, we are engaged in, primarily, a thrust into Central Asia, which serves two global strategic purposes. The first, of course, is the oil prize, but the other, and less well understood is the pincer movement that our U.S. imperialists are starting to effectuate against the Red Army. We have them covered fairly well on most sides with our fortresses in South Korea, Japan, Diego Garcia and the Pacific Fleet. Central Asia was an attractive arena for expansion of Chinese hegemony and resource exploitation, and we are well on the way to checkmating that possibility. The other resource prize that is still up for grabs is eastern Siberia. It will be very interesting to see developments there over the next decade." A.>>> Here, I fail to see the persuasiveness of the analysis, or, if it is being implemented as our national policy to revert to a mercantilist approach in handling Asia, then it's a very stupid policy unlikely to achieve the desired results. A.>>> A policy of aiding Russia (and China, as appropriate) to become more like us as Republics in governance and Capitalists in Economics, is more likely to produce favorable results for us (and them) more efficiently than a policy of 'containment'. 'Re: "Civil liberties, fiscal prudence, etc., have been thrown out the window in the name of what? A bogus war without end."' A.>>> That's the trouble with 'slippery slopes'... it's hard to climb back up them.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (266905)	6/26/2002 1:00:30 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Well said. Sounds similar to Gross's "Friendly Fascism", applied geopolitically. Does all this require ascribing overt motive, as well as incidental agreement on trends among the ruling groups? Either way the solution is - adamant and obsessive accountability and disclosure of all facts concerning the public domain, those in public service in government and in charge of public companies. The stock market is reflecting a truth pretty well, or I should say, lack of truth. In that we can take sad encouragement. The marketplace of ideas, similarly notices a lack of truth. That's about the amount of optimism I can muster for today, my friend.